Elayne is not an elected leader. Those are supposed to be responsive to the wishes of their followers. Yet, between the right-of-birth queen and the elected Amyrlin, which one has shown more concern over the opinions and wishes of the ordinary people and adherence to the principle of rule by law? Elayne. As far as Egwene is concerned, hers is the only opinion that matters, except insofar as someone has the political clout to make life difficult for her.

Yes, because political speeches ALWAYS come true.

But Elaida had similar intentions. So why is it so necessary for Egwene to win. And as for her determination to take the Tower to glory, how does that make her any better than the Hunters of the Horn who we keep seeing being held in contempt for basically the same thing as Egwene suggests in her speech - win glory by contributing to the Last Battle? Actually her speech suggests she will be a nuisance, angling to get an impressive role for the Tower, and trying to win big victories, rather than shutting her mouth and managing the Tower and keeping Aes Sedai out of Rand's hair.

I was referring to his saying that Perrin has everything in hand. Elayne does not understand the issues of the "rebellion" yet so she is not committed to action, and Perrin has no intention of contesting her rule over the Two Rivers. He said as much in tGS. RtDB!

So you have just refuted your own objection.

Exactly. It's a personal quest, not Egwene handling a major part of Rand's fight elsewhere, as Moiraine alludes of others right before Alcair Dal.

Elayne claims that Rand's declaration in favor of her was what "restrained" Dyelin. Dyelin couldn't do anything about Rand, that was why she did not try to oust him. She and her recalcitrant buddies cooperated in securing Andor from Elenia & co, but that does not make them cooperative towards Rand. Dyelin has personal ties to Elayne, and a genuine reluctance to assume the throne, which is why she was not out causing trouble with the others.

She said that problems could be solved, and only as a point of comparison with "Elaida's" decree warning people away from Rand. Objectively speaking, she is right. She did NOT encourage him to kneel to Rand, and we see from the reactions of Siuan & Myrelle to the rumor that he has knelt to Elaida that she IS correct in that it would solve problems. She was the one who first voiced the idea that Salidar's best claim over the Tower would have been a tie to Rand, back in tFoH. She never said she wanted Rand there in the big picture, she merely noted that it would be an advantage in the struggle for control of the Tower, but Rand would not even do that to help his childhood friend, much less a former Red who wanted him arrested.

The sheer arrogance of assuming she is in anyway qualified to give him any of the guidance he needs suggests exactly the problem we skeptics have with the Egewnist scenario that she is going to peacefully cooperate with Rand. He is her superior politically, in governing, in military matters and in the affairs of the world. In what area can she guide him? Elayne's wish to guide him was grounded on his then-inexperienced state, and her lifetime of training for what he was going through, or her being born and raised to rule the country he was currently trying to administer. Nynaeve has the perspective of an older friend who watched him grow up. What does Egwene have? She less experienced in everything except Tower-specific politics, and he needs no guidance for manuevering in the Hall. After all, shouldn't Egwene be solving those problems FOR him?

Aligned, but not ruled by. Fellow-travelers, not a Tar Valon protectorate. She herself says Egwene's authority over her would be personal only, which she views as a useful method of humility. She asserts that she will not give her land to the Tower. Nynaeve notes that Elayne believes in the Tower, "but she believed in Rand, too..." Elayne has never taken the Tower's side over Rand, if only because she has been too removed from the conflict between them to pick, but she was the one arguing for the rebels to proclaim their loyalty to Rand, she was the one who sought something to make the Hall support Rand. She has never tried to use Rand to help the rebels.

Which is why I brought up the issue! Did you READ the last paragraph of my original post? The point of the post was not to rip Egwene, it was to point out that the Tower's contribution will be something new and unexpected, because as far as things are trending now, there was no point.

You have an absolutely fascinating definition of "on his side."

How? What has he done that was wrong? Given all that Taim has accomplished for him, giving him his head is an obvious move. The readers think it was dumb, because of dramatic irony, and Egwene thinks its dumb because it's male channelers, which creep her out everytime she witnesses Rand channeling in her PoVs. Neither of which is a valid reason for Rand to antagonize his arguably most valuable non-ta'veren follower by micromanaging.

Screw him. Logain's an egotistical d-bag, who falsely claimed to be the Dragon Reborn to seek glory and power, got thousands of people killed and currently goes around publicly detracting and undermining Rand. Harine & Shalon were at the Cleansing. Their version of events would be contradicted by Logain telling them his fantasy that the Creator intervened, and can only serve to make Rand or his preferred Sea Folk associates look bad to the MotS for claiming he did it. And Logain has no reason for his position. He has been the witness and beneficiary to one feat of channeling presumed impossible, like every other channeler in the world, he knows of the use of the Choedan Kal on the day the taint was removed, and he knows that the taint ended up on the Power through human action, whereas the Creator's intervention is completely unprecedented in human experience. He could easily find out the truth by questioning Rand's entourage at Algarin's manor, but he prefers to ignore the truth to maintain his self-image as a near-equal to Rand. Instead, he questions the sisters to confirm Min's viewing of his glory. The man's a total ass, and I'd almost rather Rand killed him than Taim.

Only Elaida was supposed to be deceived by that line! The prophecy went "The Black Tower will be rent in blood and fire and sisters will walk its grounds." They ARE and have been walking its grounds for months now. If sisters do play a role in that, it will be the party sent by Elaida to destroy the Black Tower, and/or (heh heh) the Reds' delegation, neither of which has anything to do with Egwene's rule.

Nope. Even if she is, it would depend on the nature of her part. It might just as easily turn out to be something personal, rather than something she needed the Tower for.