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Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM
And for example Lanfear and Asmo were also quite nomadic, just causing chaos. We also don't know what Balthamel or Aginor had done, if they hadn't been killed.


Graendal had a base of operations in AD, but she obviously had her fingers in other areas (ala Shara) ...

Semirhage and Mesaana are similar cases in that they seemed to have been assigned a task.

IMO Demandred was likely running around in various areas stirring up whatever chaos he could. I'd say he had a hand in the Dragon Sworn and possibly could have had a hand in the Borderlanders defection.

Contrary to Sidious' thought, IMO, the Dragon Sworn were a scourge for over half the series! The entire Southwest region of the continent has been swarming with them since tGH... destabilizing Ghealdan, Tarabon, Almoth Plain Arad Domon, and to a lesser degree Murrandy, Altara and Amadicia.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1163 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 568 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 575 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 535 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 785 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 537 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 554 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 546 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 238 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 242 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 233 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 498 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 484 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 498 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 474 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 559 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 526 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 499 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 549 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 504 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 578 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 485 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 474 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 518 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 470 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 489 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 649 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 522 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 525 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 477 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 492 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 509 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 230 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 486 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 232 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 242 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 471 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 482 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 481 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 458 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 454 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 549 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 512 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 413 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 473 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 477 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 873 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 490 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 490 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 538 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 495 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 469 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 482 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 580 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 456 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 493 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 434 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 478 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 203 Views
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