It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
Joel Send a noteboard - 23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM
Just as all three ta'veren will be present, so will most of the surviving Lightfriend cast. Again, according to the Seanchan prophecies, the Last Battle CANNOT occur until Rand kneels before the Crystal Throne. Once reunited, Moiraine and Rand will probably be joined at the hip for the rest of the series anyway, but it is hard to imagine them having a conversation that goes
Rand: Hey, Mo, I'm leaving to meet the imperious ruler of the people who enslave every channeler on sight and conquered half the Westlands.
Moiraine: Take a sweater....
Rand: Hey, Mo, I'm leaving to meet the imperious ruler of the people who enslave every channeler on sight and conquered half the Westlands.
Moiraine: Take a sweater....
I don't think Rand will go to meet her. She'll come to Merrilor. But maybe I'm confused about what you're saying.
It's possible you're thinking he has to kneel to the actual throne, and I don't agree with that. I think kneeling to Tuon wherever she is is all that's required.
The reminiscences of Seanchan who have formally been before it strongly suggest it employs something similar (perhaps identical) to Compulsion, which would certainly explain the mindless adoration so many Seanchan, even at the highest levels, direct toward the Empress. If it is something like that, it is hard to imagine the Seanchan carrying their Empress' throne to the Oathbreakers land (if it is even practical,) so rather than just a trip to Ebou Dar, that might merely be the departure point for a transatlant—er, transARYTH trip. I do not think this is one of those prophecies that can be fulfilled with the kind of casual dismissal that facing the Amyrlin and knowing her wrath was (assuming that one has actually been fulfilled.)
Honorbound and honored to be Bonded to Mahtaliel Sedai
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!
LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!
LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
This message last edited by Joel on 23/05/2012 at 09:23:32 PM
aMoL UK cover and Blurb (SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!)
21/05/2012 06:44:26 PM
- 2693 Views
Thoughts...
21/05/2012 06:46:41 PM
- 1203 Views
Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 08:45:41 PM
- 1034 Views
Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:04:09 PM
- 1235 Views
Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:35:29 PM
- 1133 Views
Mat and the madness...
21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM
- 1077 Views
Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad
21/05/2012 10:58:37 PM
- 1100 Views
Not Egwene though...
21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM
- 906 Views
Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM
- 902 Views
Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
22/05/2012 01:14:05 AM
- 973 Views
Re: Mat and the madness...
22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM
- 1024 Views
Rand's dreams...
22/05/2012 02:42:36 AM
- 942 Views
She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney
22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM
- 1098 Views
Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her.
21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM
- 1079 Views
Oh read the books will you?
21/05/2012 11:12:06 PM
- 1068 Views
I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author.
22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM
- 1053 Views
What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn."
22/05/2012 02:12:25 PM
- 972 Views
As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar
22/05/2012 07:20:40 PM
- 1044 Views
At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
22/05/2012 09:08:42 PM
- 889 Views
Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM
- 928 Views
Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM
- 910 Views
Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 09:01:10 PM
- 972 Views
It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM
- 953 Views
Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
24/05/2012 07:34:40 AM
- 891 Views
Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
25/05/2012 01:23:21 AM
- 958 Views
Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
24/05/2012 02:41:55 PM
- 1040 Views
Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
24/05/2012 07:04:02 PM
- 1304 Views
Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM
- 1445 Views
Agreed...
26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM
- 1002 Views
I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends
26/05/2012 10:37:44 PM
- 881 Views
Re: Agreed...
27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM
- 948 Views
I think you're both wrong...
27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM
- 953 Views
I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM
- 874 Views
I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM
- 962 Views
Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM
- 887 Views
That makes no sense
28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM
- 931 Views
Taringail was Laman's heir...
28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM
- 875 Views
You are answering the wrong question
29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM
- 864 Views
No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
- 915 Views
Yet not one of these things actually happened
29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM
- 904 Views
You're being absurd...
30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM
- 858 Views
Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 05:48:48 AM
- 829 Views
30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM
- 828 Views
Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
30/05/2012 06:22:08 AM
- 981 Views
We don't fully know...
30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM
- 738 Views
You just flipped your last statement
30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM
- 974 Views
You seem extremely confused...
30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM
- 900 Views
Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM
- 868 Views
Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM
- 1034 Views
I am not contesting the information we have
30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM
- 970 Views
You're impossible...
30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM
- 896 Views
Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM
- 1065 Views
See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
30/05/2012 05:09:14 PM
- 828 Views
Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear....
30/05/2012 10:50:33 PM
- 852 Views
Re: That makes no sense
29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM
- 1033 Views
Only one other thing...
29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM
- 766 Views
No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
30/05/2012 05:52:18 AM
- 574 Views
Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
- 879 Views
Bryne was First Prince Regent.
30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM
- 852 Views
No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
26/05/2012 10:33:20 PM
- 795 Views
Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
27/05/2012 03:23:12 AM
- 876 Views
Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 01:50:19 PM
- 842 Views
Re: Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM
- 990 Views
I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM
- 953 Views
Re: I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 03:33:18 PM
- 1061 Views
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
28/05/2012 05:18:40 PM
- 482 Views
He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM
- 1180 Views