... is that RJ is as "sexist" with men as he is with women. What you said about women being irrational and men just rolling their eyes and going along is actually how women in the series view men, and less how men handle women.
Oh, I agree that women view men the same way. But I don't see the men portrayed as such very often. That's more what I was talking about. Not how the two sets of characters view each other, but how the author portrays them. The male characters may act buffoonish toward the women at times, but the story usually makes them pay for it, and learn and grow because of it. I don't see the same attitude from the author toward the female characters. Elayne blaming Rand for getting her pregnant when she was the one who practically jumped his bones? It's cute! Egwene realizing she's manipulating Rand as much as the other women, but deciding it's okay because she's "right?" THAT hasn't come back to bite her in the ass yet, and I doubt it will. Faile holding Perrin to cultural standards he can't possibly measure up to because he doesn't know them? Perrin must adjust. The author often lets his female characters be childish with little consequences. He simply has his male characters put up with it, and their baffled and amused reactions come across as echoes of his own.
I'm not stating gender relations in WoT are normal or well-adjusted. Far from it. But nor do I think they're a symptom of RJ being sexist. Instead, I think its a partially successful attempt at describing an unequal society akin to the middle ages, but with the women as the dominating gender.
I belive RJ has stated that he considers his world to be gender equal rather than being dominated by women.
What;s your favorite RJ comment on the sexes?
06/07/2011 02:04:56 AM
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Women cannot admit they were wrong and will partner up with their worst enemy against a man over it.
07/07/2011 12:20:16 AM
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I remember a thread started by Phil Reborn long ago...
07/07/2011 05:21:12 AM
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Oh, heaven, I've been there!
08/07/2011 12:04:35 AM
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what you've never heard of "bros before hos"?
08/07/2011 08:03:47 PM
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Agreed
08/07/2011 11:38:59 PM
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That's not exactly what the incident was about.
10/07/2011 07:29:14 PM
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Yes, and the way Egwene expressed her thoughts on the matter is quite disturning too
11/07/2011 12:56:59 AM
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That wasn't what I was refering to
12/07/2011 07:26:59 PM
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certainly not by today's standards, but to play devil's advocate here...
12/07/2011 09:04:07 PM
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I don't think any of his comments on the sexes are accurate for real people
07/07/2011 02:53:29 PM
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I largely disagree
07/07/2011 11:59:52 PM
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It depends on who the 6 women and his dual girlfriends were.
08/07/2011 03:15:14 PM
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Agreed
08/07/2011 07:46:30 PM
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*NM*
08/07/2011 09:18:44 PM
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Hi fionwe1987! *NM*
08/07/2011 11:36:48 PM
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Hi! The reason I rolled my eyes...
09/07/2011 06:31:20 AM
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Yes! I agree!
09/07/2011 02:30:21 PM
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Re: Hi! The reason I rolled my eyes...
09/07/2011 07:42:48 PM
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Re: Hi! The reason I rolled my eyes...
10/07/2011 07:35:37 PM
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that's not why stereotypes exist
09/07/2011 04:18:45 AM
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whether positive or negative, stereotypes all come from the same place
12/07/2011 04:29:23 AM
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Cosmopolitan = artificial and unnatural; Your situation is the aberration - his is more the norm *NM*
13/07/2011 01:09:00 AM
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Re: Cosmopolitan = artificial and unnatural; Your situation is the aberration - his is more the norm
16/07/2011 01:02:37 PM
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You have to make sure your husbands do what you want, while making them think it was their idea.
21/07/2011 04:28:39 AM
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And I can buy that, which is why I'm surprised at how many claimed they were inaccurate. Seriously,
26/07/2011 01:44:28 AM
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