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Re: They were naive Cannoli Send a noteboard - 29/04/2011 03:18:42 PM


Elayne too, and Nynaeve didn't think much of her. I always assumed it was just their naivity - Egwene and Nynaeve still judging the world by Two Rivers standards (does anyone else think 'good Two Rivers woolens' are more about warmth than modesty? It's cold around there) and Elayne being jealous over Rand. Elayne, though she would have been raised knowing her marriage was a means to an end, would have unquestioningly assumed that she would enter into any such relationship from a position of strength. None of the three of them knew anything about the political realities of being a weak woman ruler with only beauty and guile for weapons.


As you say, Elayne was jealous and once she's reduced Berelain on her threat radar, I don't see any problems with them getting along, as Aviendha was with her in LoC. Recall that Aviendha was very aware of Elayne's feelings regarding Rand & Berelain in tSR, and given her obsessive honor issues concerning that mess, she would be very well primed for hostility toward Berelain. Especially as she herself was already guilty of the sin Berelain had only attempted, and human nature judges most harshly those with whom one SHARES a flaw. Yet they were still acting friendly enough to creep out Rand, on what had to have been a very short acquaintence. Even if it is only a vicarious sharing of the Wise One's acceptance, Elayne gets along very well with the Wise Ones and respects them a lot. Nynaeve might have disapproved, but she was more objective in Tear, though the sheer lack of anything remotely in common would probably be her biggest obstacle to getting along with her. Egwene maintains her cattiness, because the dreams she unethically eavesdrops on are not to her taste. All she can do is wonder why so many of her friends respect the woman, and the thought that there might be something admirable or respectable about her never once occurs.
Cannoli
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Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course) - 28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM 4114 Views
There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM* - 28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM 503 Views
Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying. - 28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM 1014 Views
Sorry about that... - 28/04/2011 10:58:50 PM 1075 Views
Ah, its always good to see a good Egwene rant. Bravo! NM *NM* - 28/04/2011 01:58:46 PM 738 Views
Great work, Cannoli - 28/04/2011 02:09:28 PM 1029 Views
Regarding the mother's permission.... - 28/04/2011 07:26:29 PM 1093 Views
while i agree with you on most of this - 28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM 1158 Views
hmpf, i post a good point and nothing - 28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM 929 Views
Everybody agrees with you, that's why there were no replies *NM* - 28/04/2011 11:29:13 PM 488 Views
Here's a scary thought - 28/04/2011 11:54:50 PM 1244 Views
OMGWTFBBQ!? - 28/04/2011 11:58:37 PM 970 Views
In regards to the letters... - 28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM 1208 Views
But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject - 28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM 1007 Views
Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder. - 28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM 968 Views
The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners. - 28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM 1131 Views
No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants. - 28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM 933 Views
Marriage - 28/04/2011 08:27:53 PM 947 Views
Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical - 28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM 1176 Views
Here's the thing though... - 28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM 979 Views
No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it. - 29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM 1146 Views
But... - 29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM 940 Views
That's not really clear - 29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM 1074 Views
Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM 1095 Views
Re: Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM 972 Views
Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered? - 02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM 977 Views
It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM 1281 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:25:31 PM 1205 Views
thumbs up to you both *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:45:51 PM 477 Views
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Galad is a great option for a political marriage - 28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM 974 Views
Yes, but... - 28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM 1006 Views
but galad knew nothing of berelain's closeness to rand, so that couldn't have affected anything - 28/04/2011 10:12:23 PM 1048 Views
Exactly - 28/04/2011 10:27:04 PM 906 Views
Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM - 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM 1359 Views
Except... - 28/04/2011 11:16:25 PM 1004 Views
Well... - 29/04/2011 12:14:42 AM 968 Views
Re: Well... - 29/04/2011 08:39:37 AM 927 Views
Except they're both really hot. - 28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM 1151 Views
They were naive - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM 948 Views
Re: They were naive - 29/04/2011 03:18:42 PM 1230 Views
I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant. - 04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM 1140 Views
Siuan... - 04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM 1114 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM 988 Views
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"McClellanesque", eh? I'll have to remember that one. - 16/05/2011 12:12:23 AM 1244 Views

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