The Queen of Andor in Avi's viewing was actually Elayne's granddaughter.
Zeratul Send a noteboard - 08/01/2011 11:18:20 PM
It was mentioned that her graondmother and Oncala's, the Avi descendant in this viewing, had been first-sisters and Oncala's grandmother was later revealed to have been Aviendha.
Anyway, it doesn't mean for sure that Elayne is dead in that future. This happens almost 60 years after the Last Battle and after 40-50 years on the throne it's quite likely that Elayne could've abdicated in favour of her children. Or left earlier with Rand for some Portal Stone world or something similar, there are strong hints of the Dragon and his women leaving going away after the Last Battle.
Plus those viewings are most probably not 100% prophetic, just a possibility. The strongest hint for that is that there were still an awful lot of Aiel left in the viewing which was about Aviendha's quadruplets, despite the Rhuidean prophesy that only "a remnant of a remnant" of them will be saved by Rand, the rest will be dead or not Aiel anymore. Yet Rand is gone in the viewing, and the Aiel are still there in big numbers.
Anyway, it doesn't mean for sure that Elayne is dead in that future. This happens almost 60 years after the Last Battle and after 40-50 years on the throne it's quite likely that Elayne could've abdicated in favour of her children. Or left earlier with Rand for some Portal Stone world or something similar, there are strong hints of the Dragon and his women leaving going away after the Last Battle.
Plus those viewings are most probably not 100% prophetic, just a possibility. The strongest hint for that is that there were still an awful lot of Aiel left in the viewing which was about Aviendha's quadruplets, despite the Rhuidean prophesy that only "a remnant of a remnant" of them will be saved by Rand, the rest will be dead or not Aiel anymore. Yet Rand is gone in the viewing, and the Aiel are still there in big numbers.
This message last edited by Zeratul on 08/01/2011 at 11:19:25 PM
Avi's 2nd trip indirectly tells us something about Elayne
08/01/2011 10:31:15 PM
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The Queen of Andor in Avi's viewing was actually Elayne's granddaughter.
08/01/2011 11:18:20 PM
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Aviendha and Tuon are also dead or gone by that point. *NM*
09/01/2011 04:07:44 AM
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That does not surprise me
10/01/2011 12:06:23 AM
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40/50 is still young for Tuon to die, unless she's assassinated
10/01/2011 12:26:19 AM
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they've been collared *NM*
10/01/2011 01:55:18 PM
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I just figured that Elayne, Egwene and Nynaeve died fighting the Seanchan
10/01/2011 05:28:14 PM
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that doesn't fit the timeline though
11/01/2011 04:58:11 PM
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Strange.
11/01/2011 07:16:28 PM
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it's possible that the Dragon and his 3 wives simply leave together at a certain point
11/01/2011 08:59:19 PM
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Can you honestly see Elayne leaving her children and/or the throne of Andor to be with him?
12/01/2011 03:01:20 PM
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True it seems very unlikely, but perhaps they leave when the kids are grown?
23/01/2011 03:26:41 PM
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clearly?
10/01/2011 07:24:17 PM
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It's clearly implied that the vision with Avi's kids is about 17 years after the Last Battle
10/01/2011 08:22:06 PM
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Re: It's clearly implied that the vision with Avi's kids is about 17 years after the Last Battle
10/01/2011 10:08:52 PM
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It tells us Elayne doesn't rule very long, and neither does her daughter... BUT
10/01/2011 09:15:29 PM
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I wonder if Nakomi was Lanfear & if so, perhaps
changed the programming of the ter'angreal
10/01/2011 10:30:50 PM
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Lanfear or a Forsaken as Nakomi don't make much sense to me
12/01/2011 06:03:32 PM
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As to the Nakomi problem...
26/01/2011 05:22:50 AM
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Aviendha time traveling back to herself. Very interesting...and possible...I'll have to think on it *NM*
30/01/2011 10:02:44 PM
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Re: It tells us Elayne doesn't rule very long, and neither does her daughter... BUT
29/01/2011 11:32:10 PM
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Does anyone know who actually wrote the Avi future sequence? RJ or BS? *NM*
21/01/2011 05:04:33 AM
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