Sanderson just makes him too much of a clown for me
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 05/12/2010 04:21:34 PM
I'm not trying to shoot anyone's opinions down, nor am I trying to say that the hatred for ToM isn't unfounded, I just would like to know why the people who do hate ToM (and there do seem to be a lot of you floating around) hated it so?
I can understand the writing style of BS really turning people off, but we kind of had to expect this of the middle of the "final book", didn't we? I mean, when RJ died, a good portion of tGS was either written or at least well prepared, and since BS has already stated before that the ending has been written by RJ, its safe to assume that AMoL will still have a good portion of RJ left in it. I personally don't hate BS's style; it takes some getting used to, but I don't think its as atrocious as people are making it out to be.
I personally rather liked ToM. tGS was much better (my second favorite of the series), but it was still good, considering we do have CoT and WH to look back on. Sure, there were moments when I cringed, but there were moments like that in tGS as well (Rand shaking his fist at the DO, anyone?). I thought Mat was written well, and while I know certain things are just not gonna be explained, I'm okay with that. Maybe its just me; I've been reading since I was 2, and over the years I've come to accept that things don't always have to be explained. Not saying that those of you who want everything explained are wrong; just saying that is who I am.
Anyway, I guess this thread is really just a rant thread for those who want to voice their ire, their frustration, and their outright hate for ToM. I would like to understand why.
I can understand the writing style of BS really turning people off, but we kind of had to expect this of the middle of the "final book", didn't we? I mean, when RJ died, a good portion of tGS was either written or at least well prepared, and since BS has already stated before that the ending has been written by RJ, its safe to assume that AMoL will still have a good portion of RJ left in it. I personally don't hate BS's style; it takes some getting used to, but I don't think its as atrocious as people are making it out to be.
I personally rather liked ToM. tGS was much better (my second favorite of the series), but it was still good, considering we do have CoT and WH to look back on. Sure, there were moments when I cringed, but there were moments like that in tGS as well (Rand shaking his fist at the DO, anyone?). I thought Mat was written well, and while I know certain things are just not gonna be explained, I'm okay with that. Maybe its just me; I've been reading since I was 2, and over the years I've come to accept that things don't always have to be explained. Not saying that those of you who want everything explained are wrong; just saying that is who I am.
Anyway, I guess this thread is really just a rant thread for those who want to voice their ire, their frustration, and their outright hate for ToM. I would like to understand why.
TOM had some glaring problems ... For me it was still enjoyable, but there were definitely moments that made me cringe.
I can't believe you thought he got Mat right! Personally Mat was once one of my favorite characters, now I don't particularly love him. RJ's use of Mat's particular sense of humor and moral code was very different than how Brandon is portraying him.
I agree. It's not that BS's Mat is good or bad to me. Both types of Mat are good. They're just so very different.
thinking about his best smiles and all his "looking at the serving girls for Talmanes" crap bugged me ... RJs Mat would have stared all day and never even realized he was leering!
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Whats with all the hate?
05/12/2010 03:46:29 PM
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well it's a fan-site so we're nit-picky
05/12/2010 04:14:34 PM
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Re: well it's a fan-site so we're nit-picky
05/12/2010 04:18:15 PM
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Sanderson just makes him too much of a clown for me
05/12/2010 04:21:34 PM
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Re: Sanderson just makes him too much of a clown for me
05/12/2010 11:23:37 PM
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Yup, Sanderson has no subtly, or at least assumes that his readers have an IQ of 6.
06/12/2010 01:04:44 AM
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hater gotta hate! *strikes a pose* *NM*
05/12/2010 06:31:03 PM
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and lovers gotta love? Uncritically? *NM* *NM*
05/12/2010 08:22:13 PM
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Lovers can love and still be critical.
05/12/2010 08:46:40 PM
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This.
05/12/2010 09:19:24 PM
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exactly. ToM had it's flaws, but it was still satisfying
05/12/2010 10:39:58 PM
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Re: exactly. ToM had it's flaws, but it was still satisfying
05/12/2010 11:15:46 PM
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If you don't find it acceptable, fine, but I do. reading is not objective.
05/12/2010 11:58:50 PM
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Re: If you don't find it acceptable, fine, but I do. reading is not objective.
06/12/2010 07:17:03 AM
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Re: If you don't find it acceptable, fine, but I do. reading is not objective.
06/12/2010 12:10:30 PM
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Hate is such a strong word....
05/12/2010 07:35:04 PM
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Re: Hate is such a strong word....
05/12/2010 08:25:23 PM
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Re: Hate is such a strong word....
05/12/2010 09:07:27 PM
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I agree with you on just about everything, but have you considered ...
05/12/2010 10:59:50 PM
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I'd love to see a re-edit of ToM and TGS
06/12/2010 01:10:00 AM
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Personally I don't get it. If I wanted to read Shakespeare I would've picked up Hamlet.
05/12/2010 08:24:04 PM
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Re: Personally I don't get it. If I wanted to read Shakespeare I would've picked up Hamlet.
05/12/2010 08:28:09 PM
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Yeah, what's wrong with the Hobbit?
05/12/2010 09:22:38 PM
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*lol* You can still agree but not on everything!
05/12/2010 11:36:55 PM
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I liked the book alright, but I tend to talk about the good and exciting things first
06/12/2010 04:44:54 AM
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Hitler told the Jews ahead of time what he had planned for them: why are they so bitter?
06/12/2010 12:52:08 PM
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Wow. I had no idea people felt this way.
07/12/2010 03:30:08 AM
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