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Egwene is quoting ancient (and modern) Brown scholars... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/11/2010 03:15:15 AM
"So long as we do not depend on the facts entirely, incomplete knowledge is better than complete ignorance."
Saerin snorted softly, but obviously recognized the quote from Yasicca Cellaech, an ancient Brown scholar.


I was reading through some chapters at random, and this sudden;y jumped out at me. As of KoD, Egwene claimed that the only kind of history she knew was about Amyrlins and their wisdom from Siuan. We see this at play in tGS as well, especially in her debate with Elaida.

Suddenly, Egwene is quoting a non-Amyrlin Brown, that too one from a very long time ago (assuming ancient isn't after Artur Hawkwing's reign). Where did she come across this?

I think Egwene has been researching about the Seals and the Dark One. It would be totally unlike her to go to the meeting with Rand without having any idea how to rebut him. While her Dream is a powerful point, I doubt she will rely just on that. It is quite possible that Siuan has been researching this as well, and since Egwene doesn't know the Old Tongue and Siuan is an expert, this could be how Siuan has been spending her time. One little clue is that Siuan herself says early on that she doesn't care about politics anymore and wants to get back to guiding Rand. What job can be more important than finding ways to defeat the Dark One?

I'm certain that the reason none of this was even hinted at was to keep up the tension of the supposed Egwene-Rand conflict. We have her give no thought to what she would say in the meeting at all, simply so that the cliffhanger at the end of the book would work. But I think it stands to reason that she would get some research done before arguing her case before Rand, who she knows remembers his life as LTT.

Now, another thing that struck me was this:

There is a third constant besides the Creator and the Dark One, Verin's meticulous voice said, a memory from another time. There is a world that lies within each of these others, inside all of them at the same time. Or perhaps surrounding them. Writers in the Age of Legends called it Tel'aran'rhiod.

Strikingly, this thought strikes Egwene right as she is looking at the Dragon's Fang and Amyrlin's Flame fused together in TAR. And that design, flame and fang combined, is not only the ancient Aes Sedai symbol but also the shape of the Seals!

I think this is a significant foreshadowing that Tel'aran'rhiod will play a big role in resealing the Dark One. I think Perrin and Egwene will be involved in this side of things, and Rand as well (I think it is no coincidence at all that his dreams are now attacked by Lanfear. I think Rand's own Tel'aran'rhiod abilities will soon hit the screen). I don't think that it is a coincidence at all that Egwene the Dreamer was around when Perrin had his first contact with wolves, who helped him excel at the World of Dreams. Those two are certainly destined to cooperate there, and I think helping in resealing the Dark One is what they'll be working towards.
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Egwene is quoting ancient (and modern) Brown scholars... - 19/11/2010 03:15:15 AM 1080 Views
Good post. I don't have much to add, but - 19/11/2010 03:39:42 AM 479 Views
Thanks! - 19/11/2010 05:45:42 AM 386 Views
I agree. - 19/11/2010 03:30:22 PM 374 Views
This gives a whole new thought on "The 3 shall become 1" - 19/11/2010 03:54:13 PM 395 Views
Nope, apparently this is not possible. - 19/11/2010 06:26:46 PM 388 Views
But is Shayol Ghul technically in the Blight? - 19/11/2010 08:09:13 PM 378 Views
Re: But is Shayol Ghul technically in the Blight? - 20/11/2010 09:27:08 AM 372 Views
No, you're confusing reaching SG and entering TAR once you are there - 19/11/2010 09:05:04 PM 341 Views
Huh? - 28/11/2010 12:34:14 PM 300 Views
I highly doubt she is that sophisticated as you're picturing her. *NM* - 19/11/2010 07:58:16 PM 147 Views

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