I think Brandon hinted that there is a way to defeat the Rod itself, not the whole Aes Sedai process around taking the Oath.
For some months now I have the following theory:
- to swear the Oath again, the Aes Sedai are un-swearing them;
- since Mesaana didn't swear any Oath, we actually don't know what happens when you are un-swearing them while never swearing in the first place;
- my theory is that such process creates a Oath-negative effect for the channeler, and when the channeler actually swears the Oath, its effect is cancelled by the Oath-negative effect;
- this may actually be tied to the physics of the Rod and so Brandon's words hold true.
For some months now I have the following theory:
- to swear the Oath again, the Aes Sedai are un-swearing them;
- since Mesaana didn't swear any Oath, we actually don't know what happens when you are un-swearing them while never swearing in the first place;
- my theory is that such process creates a Oath-negative effect for the channeler, and when the channeler actually swears the Oath, its effect is cancelled by the Oath-negative effect;
- this may actually be tied to the physics of the Rod and so Brandon's words hold true.
I'm not sure it would work though. Unless she knew specifically how to word her pretend unbinding to set up a negative Oath effect.
"And it breaks my heart to look around, and see the unimpressed; who can't believe the emperor is dressed"~Fastball
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This message last edited by Gher on 18/07/2010 at 02:01:41 AM
How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod?
17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM
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That isn't tricking the oath rod, the way I'm understanding his answer. That's tricking humans *NM*
17/07/2010 10:29:52 AM
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I don't think
17/07/2010 05:29:59 PM
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As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM
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That's an interesting theory
18/07/2010 02:01:23 AM
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Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod.
20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 04:04:28 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 06:02:40 PM
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Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't
20/07/2010 07:26:20 PM
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I think this is a tricky issue
18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM
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Re: I think this is a tricky issue
18/07/2010 07:28:51 PM
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Perhaps she pressed, and held the on/off switch, so that the Oaths never triggered? *NM*
19/07/2010 09:50:13 PM
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Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant.
18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM
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but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then....
19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM
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What about the True Power?
19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM
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A true power invisible glove is better than a one power invisible glove. *NM*
20/07/2010 07:46:48 PM
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I doubt Mesaana stands high enough to have TP access right now. She's probably the lowest FS. *NM*
20/07/2010 07:55:31 PM
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Yeah I realize what I presented was kinda the opposite of what I was going for.
20/07/2010 02:15:46 AM
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I just thought of the most obvious way around it.
20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM
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Wouldn't work
20/07/2010 08:03:52 PM
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I agree, but...
20/07/2010 08:20:33 PM
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This makes me wonder what would happen to a woman in a Link
20/07/2010 08:37:12 PM
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Re: Wouldn't work
20/07/2010 09:11:50 PM
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I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else
20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM
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Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else
20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM
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Off-topic question:
21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM
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I'm fairly certain that the ability can't be sensed until they are very close to touching
21/07/2010 09:29:54 PM
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