she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM
If there is such a urgent need to reveal further informations on Graendal's plans and deeds, it makes more sense that it will be revealed in the PoV of another Forsaken or SH without jumping back in Graendal's timeline, which ended in TGS, and not bring back a dead character.
Personally, I think it's absolutely clear that Graendal died of course. BS simply doesn't admit it yet, to keep some people a bit guessing.
Personally, I think it's absolutely clear that Graendal died of course. BS simply doesn't admit it yet, to keep some people a bit guessing.
There is absolutely no reason to believe that just because Graendal likely died in Rands timeline that she won't appear in Perrin or Mat's timeline prior to her death.
There is absolutely no reason to believe that Graendal WILL appear, because as far as we know she was concentrated on Arad Doman and Rand to fulfill Moridin's orders. There is also absolutely no indication in Perrin's or Mat's timeline, which were advanced in TGS, that Graendal played any part there.
As often said, it never happened before that a character, who died in a specific timeline, suddenly appears again in the next book in another timeline before the death. It would likely confuse many readers and is not necessary (BS also told once on his homepage that he doesn't like such flashbacks). You can naturally better advance the plot/timeline and avoid any confusion, if you simply include e.g. an Aran'gar PoV, where she muses about Graendal, her death and how Aran'gar will go one now.
For these reasons it's highly unlikely that Graendal will have another PoV yet, if she died in TGS, like also Sammael, Osan'gar or any other character never got another PoV after their death to give certain informations.
What about Noal Charin? he was almost certainly involved with Graendal at some point.
Face it you are making excuses for there to be no Graendal involvement solely because you are worried that if she crops up she'll finally admit to having killed Asmo.
And even if Noal was linked to Graendal in the past, nothing indicates that she has to appear in ToM to talk with Noal.
you keep insisting that she's somehow tied directly to Rand and only Rand... I don't think that is the case. She's got her fingers in all kinds of plots and could easily be shown involved with any number of situations ... hell it's not even inconceivable that she is behind the Borderlanders!
She was completely concentrated on Rand and Arad Doman in TGS. Graendal muses- in TGS that Demandred might control the Borderlanders, which naturally suggests that she isn't involved with them (except for having a few spies there). Other things aren't known; thus it's highly unlikely that she will suddenly be seen in other plotlines in ToM before her death. Obviously her plotline was finished in TGS with a great culmination scene.
and she's up to something with Aran'gar that could put her indirectly in another plot line. Just because in ONE book she's told to pay more attention to Rand doesn't mean that is the only plot line she's involved in.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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12/07/2010 04:23:24 PM
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This...
12/07/2010 04:54:28 PM
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how do you get there from this?
12/07/2010 05:47:42 PM
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Because...
12/07/2010 10:40:29 PM
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the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer
14/07/2010 02:39:52 AM
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Re: the only reason you say this is because you think it makes Slayer
14/07/2010 04:54:16 AM
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Graendal is part of several plot lines. Aran'gar at the very least is unseen in TGS, but involved
14/07/2010 02:40:09 PM
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No...
14/07/2010 08:10:12 AM
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so it's not possible for anything that has never been done in the series to happen... ok
14/07/2010 02:38:08 PM
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Again, there is no sensible reason for a scene where Graendal is shown again before her death. *NM*
14/07/2010 04:47:21 PM
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sure there is ... to tell us she killed Asmo
14/07/2010 04:56:09 PM
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Again...
15/07/2010 08:57:34 AM
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or it could as easily be a scene from Aran'gar's POV that includes Graendal
15/07/2010 01:36:21 PM
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The point is...
15/07/2010 01:55:43 PM
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that is 100% your interpretation
15/07/2010 02:51:49 PM
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Noal was involved with Ishy; a connection to Graendal is pure speculation.
15/07/2010 03:19:38 PM
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I'm pointing out that she had more than just Rands plot line
15/07/2010 03:59:36 PM
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As far as we know...
15/07/2010 04:06:56 PM
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she also knows what Cyndane and Moghedien are up to and may be involved
16/07/2010 01:58:36 PM
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There is nothing to support your view, that Graendal was directly involved in any other plotlines...
16/07/2010 02:31:01 PM
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Indeed
13/07/2010 08:49:43 AM
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The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet...
13/07/2010 09:14:04 AM
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give up Eztel...they think they know Asmodens killer...we know they are wrong
13/07/2010 09:45:15 AM
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I agree regarding Graendal, but have to disagree concerning Lanfear. *NM*
13/07/2010 09:51:00 AM
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Re: The "flashbacks" are obviously related to those characters, which aren't up to date yet...
13/07/2010 10:03:14 AM
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It's completely unlikely and unnecessary
13/07/2010 10:25:36 AM
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you keep trotting this point out like it matters
14/07/2010 09:07:36 PM
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a very irritating habit indeed!!
15/07/2010 05:29:19 AM
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There is no indication that Graendal & Aran'gar did anything, except for exchanging infos!
15/07/2010 09:01:58 AM
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where do you get this stuff from?
15/07/2010 01:41:07 PM
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Eh, no
15/07/2010 02:08:56 PM
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I disagree
15/07/2010 02:56:02 PM
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Graendal actually tells that she learned interesting things from Aran'gar
15/07/2010 03:14:54 PM
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pure interpretation
15/07/2010 04:00:31 PM
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Well, it fits RJ's theme that the bad guys actually aren't that competent. *NM*
15/07/2010 04:12:19 PM
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No really since it would make Aran'gar look pretty competent *NM*
16/07/2010 03:27:40 PM
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Exchanging info is not doing nothing
15/07/2010 06:54:17 PM
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Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing
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Re: Exchanging info is not doing nothing
16/07/2010 05:30:25 AM
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And...
16/07/2010 11:35:44 AM
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you continue to ignore that Graendal died about 2 months after she
16/07/2010 02:06:48 PM
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Usually the Forsaken meet in neutral TAR...
16/07/2010 02:22:34 PM
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Trust me, Graendal won't be seen; only her name will be mentioned a few times (as BS said). *NM*
15/07/2010 09:03:33 AM
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You should really just write it for BS since you clearly know exactly what's going to happen
15/07/2010 02:57:59 PM
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Ok...
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Re: It's completely unlikely and unnecessary
14/07/2010 10:10:48 PM
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But we never...
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Re: But we never...
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I think
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Re: I think
16/07/2010 04:37:20 PM
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Yeah, RAFO! I predigt however, that we won't have another Graendal PoV. *NM*
16/07/2010 05:59:26 PM
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Etzel, you're making an assumption that might not be true.
16/07/2010 05:47:39 PM
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I admit the possibility, but consider it highly unlikely for the reasons I pointed out. *NM*
16/07/2010 05:58:01 PM
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Because some people can't read...
14/07/2010 01:05:08 PM
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Re: Because some people can't read...
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Re: Because some people can't read...
15/07/2010 05:31:22 AM
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Rand used so much baelfire on her that he zapped them all back to the last 3rd Age
15/07/2010 01:38:48 PM
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I wonder if their big role means Rand and Eg will get more chapters than first thought. *NM*
12/07/2010 05:27:44 PM
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Brandon's "Mostly" answer makes it less likely we see the Land of Madmen as Demandred's base
12/07/2010 07:36:49 PM
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On a somewhat related note, Sanderson says ToM consists of 80 chapters as of now. Ginormous!
13/07/2010 01:54:15 AM
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On Mat's "death"
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Re: On Mat's "death"
13/07/2010 02:23:19 PM
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I emailed BS and he sent me copies of both the books he mentioned in the Q&A!
14/07/2010 08:32:58 PM
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