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Re: My idea Demortae Send a noteboard - 25/06/2010 04:26:47 PM
Personally, I think it should be possible to Unravel the Bore, maybe with Callandor. Basically, the Bore is nothing else than a special, gigantic Gateway drilled with the OP through the Pattern to the DO. We also know from Demandred that one can only sense the Bore in the Pit of Doom, which implies that it is some kind of weave and explains why Rand has to enter the Pit.

If the Bore is such a special Gateway-weave, it should be possible to Unravel it like you can Unravel other weaves (of course this was unknown in the AoL, which explains LTT's failure and Moridin's horror about this discovery). Alviarin demonstrated this in PoD and might provide Rand with a clue. The seals have to vanish (clear the rubble before you can build), because they basically block that the Bore is affected from Randland (while the DO can gradually make the Bore larger, especially by weakening the Pattern through chaos).

It's also interesting that only LTT/Rand and Demandred are able to block a Gateway.

However, I also think that Rand's special blood might somehow literally play a part, because of the Prophecies and since we know that blood can have some effects in the Pit of Doom (e.g. in mindtrapping someone).


A great notion, using the already set rules of Jordan's magic system, and requiring a very lengthy amount of time, thus justifying the need of armies much as the channelers at the cleansing were needed.

How much harder would it be to unravel a weave of both Saidin and Saidar? This would certainly justify the importance of Callandor and the 3 become one bits.

We will have no idea until it is written, but this is the most logical, and perhaps the most exciting speculation I've seen.
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How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 01:00:35 AM 1595 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 04:18:42 AM 888 Views
.. *NM* - 25/06/2010 05:38:14 AM 479 Views
Mierin thought they had found a new source of power, not of THE power. - 25/06/2010 05:40:27 PM 920 Views
Why can't the Pattern be the Prison? - 25/06/2010 05:52:31 AM 960 Views
Here's a theory I had posted on wotmania - 25/06/2010 06:16:07 AM 987 Views
I told you this about 4 years ago, but your nickname is AWESOME *NM* - 25/06/2010 01:21:24 PM 448 Views
Thanks *NM* - 25/06/2010 01:44:35 PM 445 Views
Aiel Reluctance to Enter T'A'R in the flesh - 25/06/2010 02:12:01 PM 893 Views
Nice catch! - 25/06/2010 04:28:08 PM 851 Views
My idea - 25/06/2010 09:37:32 AM 842 Views
Re: My idea - 25/06/2010 04:26:47 PM 783 Views
If the Bore is like a Gateway... - 25/06/2010 06:19:44 PM 885 Views
Pretty good thought about the conduit-comparison! - 26/06/2010 07:34:16 AM 779 Views
Re: My idea - 25/06/2010 06:44:31 PM 868 Views
The very name "Bore"... - 26/06/2010 07:25:22 AM 823 Views
Actually I think he pretty much backed DomA's opinion - 26/06/2010 08:30:42 AM 735 Views
Well, as said, I disagree. - 26/06/2010 08:43:40 AM 800 Views
Well here's what I think - 26/06/2010 11:18:33 AM 1052 Views
Look... - 26/06/2010 11:43:25 AM 763 Views
Re: Look... - 26/06/2010 01:04:53 PM 848 Views
That's wrong... - 26/06/2010 01:26:25 PM 956 Views
You're ignoring basic facts - 26/06/2010 02:44:38 PM 809 Views
Again... - 26/06/2010 02:53:05 PM 827 Views
Re: Again... - 26/06/2010 03:30:20 PM 834 Views
Yeah.... - 26/06/2010 04:54:50 PM 852 Views
It's absurd. Your idea is clearly wrong, but ok... *NM* - 26/06/2010 05:00:43 PM 750 Views
After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: - 26/06/2010 05:33:21 PM 944 Views
Re: After reading through the back and forth, I am convinced of this: - 27/06/2010 06:20:32 PM 991 Views
Could the Bore have been drilled using balefire? - 02/07/2010 12:07:33 AM 796 Views
it's the same principle as shielding a channeler - 26/06/2010 06:06:04 PM 854 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? - 25/06/2010 03:37:25 PM 693 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? - 25/06/2010 04:12:08 PM 808 Views
I tend to agree with you - 25/06/2010 05:53:53 PM 856 Views
Maybe they can plug the Bore with garbage like British Petroleum. *NM* - 25/06/2010 05:43:41 PM 460 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 05:59:38 PM 896 Views
Re: How can Rand repair the bore? More importantly, what forms the boundary of the Wheel itself? - 25/06/2010 06:55:28 PM 816 Views
me too ! - 25/06/2010 10:34:41 PM 841 Views
Ah, thanks to both of you - 26/06/2010 12:38:14 AM 972 Views
Re: Ah, thanks to both of you - 26/06/2010 03:18:47 AM 865 Views
Callandor may be able to channel 'order' via ta'veren - 26/06/2010 12:48:18 AM 959 Views
additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols - 26/06/2010 05:44:06 AM 807 Views
Re: additional thought on the DO's place in the WoT symbols - 26/06/2010 05:23:16 PM 682 Views
You mix up - 27/06/2010 06:31:27 PM 727 Views
good point - 02/07/2010 05:52:49 PM 1099 Views
duct tape *NM* - 26/06/2010 11:17:54 AM 405 Views
Re: duct tape - 26/06/2010 05:41:56 PM 739 Views
I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. - 29/06/2010 08:26:45 PM 908 Views
Re: I always figured Egwene and Rand would have to work together. - 29/06/2010 10:17:59 PM 702 Views
Maybe saidar and saidin, woven together properly, form something else? - 01/07/2010 11:50:40 PM 755 Views

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