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I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM
Just because it seems somewhat thematic to have them be able to check him if necessary.


Seems significant that there is a Trinity of specific strength women directly associated to Rands life.


Min is the other woman, not Egwene. There can't just suddenly be a trinity involving Egwene to control Rand.

I think those three women were made equal to remove any sense of deferring between them. Not that they necessarily would, but when Nynaeve's around you kind of forget about Elayne. Considering Elayne, Egwene and Aviendha did a few things together, RJ made them equal in one way so that we'd forget about it.


Just that Rand has these 3 women (who have all be love interests) around him and they are all identical in Power. Just seems to fall into that category of "trinity" to me. I doubt anything will ever come of it other than the fact that it's another set of 3 around him. Didn't Linda do a whole numerology post back on wotmania??
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No three women could block him from the Source... Logain - 15/06/2010 06:52:17 PM 2044 Views
I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 07:22:16 PM 1122 Views
I think he means that it would take three such women to smother him Sidious - 15/06/2010 07:45:03 PM 1194 Views
Ahhh... I can kind of agree with that... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:05:46 PM 1264 Views
Yes, that is what he meant. Another interesting twist... Logain - 16/06/2010 01:34:18 AM 1231 Views
Agreed. Good analysis. Shannow - 16/06/2010 07:48:36 AM 1206 Views
Re: I think that is total BS, since the books have proved otherwise more than once... randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:17:47 PM 1144 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 1244 Views
Re: Huh? randfandom - 15/06/2010 08:31:17 PM 1076 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:43:12 PM 1151 Views
Re: Code_Man65 - 15/06/2010 08:47:05 PM 981 Views
No, this is before. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:49:13 PM 1049 Views
Well that's a different quote from the one you used before, and this one shows Lanfear not succeedin Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:52:00 PM 1055 Views
I never used a quote before. And there's no quote where Lanfear's shield is not succeeding. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:28 PM 928 Views
Simple answer to settle it: Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:00:22 PM 940 Views
So Talaan is God? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:04:44 PM 1112 Views
It Rand had half Lews Therin's skill at the time, she would stand no chance..SKILL was her advantage Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:08:41 PM 1050 Views
Skill has nothing to do with how strong a person is. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:11:13 PM 1029 Views
So? Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:15:01 PM 1025 Views
Nope, YOU said he was talking about smothering him, whatever that's supposed to mean... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:26:53 PM 985 Views
Oh My God! That's such utter tripe... EDIT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:30:29 PM 1070 Views
That's exactly how I understood you. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:30:42 PM 916 Views
You do know that this was AFTER Lanfear had picked up the bracelet angreal, right? Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:49:47 PM 1034 Views
It was before... both of them start using an angreal after this. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:52:02 PM 952 Views
Nope. 6 Aes Sedai couldn't take Raolain Darksbane or Yurian Stonebow...Semirhage = 3 Aes Sedai Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:26:21 PM 987 Views
Lanfear can do it alone Sidious - 15/06/2010 08:45:09 PM 1000 Views
She ATTEMPTS to cut him off, when he is not at full strength or full training yet... Shannow - 15/06/2010 08:55:39 PM 956 Views
Plus, Rand was splitting his flows, IIRC. Meaning he wasn't 100% one-on-one with her. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 08:57:35 PM 993 Views
She was splitting her flows too... she was slicing his weaves of Air. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:59:00 PM 1014 Views
Bah! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:58:26 PM 994 Views
I repeat: You cannot shield someone unless you are significantly stronger than they are... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:02:55 PM 934 Views
Explain Talaan shielding Nynaeve then. Or the two BA shielding her. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:05:21 PM 1918 Views
It becomes a battle of skill then... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:09:42 PM 1107 Views
BUT... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:12:47 PM 1025 Views
Then by your own definition you do not have to be significantly stronger to shield someone darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 11:28:44 PM 983 Views
Re: "he would have had no need to cut her weaves" Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:03:39 PM 953 Views
No. There's a difference. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:07:09 PM 1132 Views
Oh come on... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 08:48:56 PM 1150 Views
I know you are not that ignorant... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:07:02 PM 930 Views
But that isn't true... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:10:37 PM 981 Views
Let me spell it out for you... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:18:04 PM 981 Views
Re: Let me spell it out for you... Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:21:02 PM 967 Views
Don't put words in my, or Lews Therin's, mouth... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:33:50 PM 1120 Views
??? darius_sedai - 15/06/2010 10:43:28 PM 1128 Views
+1. It ridiculous comparison. Rand even didn't know how to shield a woman. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:22:22 PM 985 Views
Now that's a ridiculous comparison Sidious - 15/06/2010 09:24:45 PM 1104 Views
Exactly! fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:28:20 PM 1118 Views
Touchy point, heh? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:28:47 PM 1053 Views
Then how come Lanfear never died? We know she made attempts to capture him. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:31:20 PM 1027 Views
Whom? LTT? Can you elaborate? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:33:25 PM 1077 Views
If you wish... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:34:38 PM 828 Views
Re: If you wish... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:36:30 PM 847 Views
Whyever not? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:39:22 PM 921 Views
Re: Whyever not? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:41:22 PM 801 Views
Even in that situation fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:43:04 PM 1078 Views
Re: Even in that situation Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 09:47:36 PM 1081 Views
Okay... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:59:36 PM 1020 Views
Re: Okay... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:39:01 PM 993 Views
So, if it doesn't agree with your view, its fuzzy, even when that is what the books say? *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:42:48 PM 577 Views
What? Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:45:16 PM 938 Views
If we use your interpretation of the statements. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 10:49:21 PM 485 Views
Re: If we use your interpretation of the statements. Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 10:54:48 PM 865 Views
Okay, here's what I think you're saying... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 11:00:19 PM 1039 Views
Re: Okay, here's what I think you're saying... Skeeve the Great - 15/06/2010 11:10:57 PM 996 Views
Sorry for the mixup... BUT... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2010 12:28:31 AM 1048 Views
Hehehe! Classic. Maybe his hands were full of her...err..Globes of Fire... Shannow - 15/06/2010 09:47:35 PM 941 Views
I cannot believe you're so obtuse... or then again, I can. fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:26:04 PM 1070 Views
About how strong you have to be to shield someone... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2010 09:14:31 PM 806 Views
It's like women's tennis. Put the best up against a middling men's tennis player and they lose. *NM* Tom - 16/06/2010 12:18:06 AM 411 Views
Re: No three women could block him from the Source... Underwood - 16/06/2010 04:00:00 PM 915 Views
+1 Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 05:54:51 PM 998 Views
darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 08:48:39 PM 1184 Views
Re: Skeeve the Great - 16/06/2010 08:56:31 PM 854 Views
indeed you have darius_sedai - 16/06/2010 09:34:22 PM 1106 Views
Bad analogy... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2010 04:23:31 AM 899 Views
Uh... Sidious - 17/06/2010 09:08:01 AM 938 Views
I disagree. LordPerrin - 16/06/2010 04:03:52 PM 1076 Views
That's wrong. Rand said 2 AS + Moghedien could threaten him Logain - 16/06/2010 05:17:33 PM 1054 Views
Huh. I forgot about that. LordPerrin - 17/06/2010 04:29:38 PM 1140 Views
go back a few posts... Kieran - 17/06/2010 03:41:42 AM 987 Views
yet Nynaeve and Talaan can shield one another darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:57:09 AM 982 Views
I'd like to think Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha could RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/06/2010 04:19:22 PM 913 Views
Agreed darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 05:59:39 PM 811 Views
I don't think there's any theme Sidious - 17/06/2010 08:25:52 PM 1118 Views
I don't think they are meant to controll him in someway darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 10:21:09 PM 977 Views
They have a separate trinity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/06/2010 06:51:27 PM 995 Views
They might be able to, but then they are not 3 women of <b>average AS</b> strength Logain - 17/06/2010 07:10:14 PM 966 Views
They would be far more than 3 average AS darius_sedai - 17/06/2010 08:07:30 PM 983 Views
No, that's not right either. Lews Therin Telamon - 18/06/2010 12:37:37 AM 1021 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 06:07:10 AM 1117 Views
Another related quote Skeeve the Great - 18/06/2010 07:49:33 PM 967 Views
well, in the same book about 5 minutes after Lanfear almost kicks Rands ass darius_sedai - 18/06/2010 08:11:49 PM 1021 Views
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