It is in this general thread, genius.



We know they sang. We don't know what song they sang. Last weekend at mother's day my neice was singing ring a round the posies... She however wasn't doing the little dance. Later she sang the Hokey pokey song. Again she didn't do the dance. Sometimes you sing a song that has a certain purpose, without doing that purpose because it accomplishes something you want. In her case it made her happy to sing it. In the Aiel's case it was a reminder of all that they and the Aes Sedai were.

'Lew Therin turned, seeming unsurprised. “Ah, a guest. Have you the Voice, stranger? It will soon be time for the Singing, and here all are welcome to take part.”'

- The Eye Of The World, Prologue

This clearly implies a seasonal event. It will soon be time for the Singing... If they Aiel just helped generally, then it wouldn't be such an ordeal. Take out the word Singing and replace it with "harvest". It fits. Now take out the world Singing and replace it with "Listening to CD's". It seems like a very odd way to say, "Wanna listen to some CD's?". However, it could be a scene right out of a book about the Purtian settlements, saying it's soon harvesttime, want to help? No one says, "It's soon time to hang up some pictures." Think about it.




The Song of Saidin??? You think that counts as a separate song??? I think not. It is a way to describe the allure of saidin and the way it feels in you. That is like claiming the songs Rand played on his flute count.
As for Treesinging. I have to think Treesinging is a form of the Ogier version of the Seed Song. It makes the trees grow. Do you think the Ogier developed this talent to make beds? I think not. They used to to make things grow. Notice their love to tend the gardens of the great trees. THey are also called Ogier Gardeners. It is a part of them. Perhaps over the last 3000 years they have made some slight changes to their part of the song such that they can pull out pieces of wood from trees, or perhaps that was a side benefit of their part of the song all along. I will concede we don't know that point. Also, the Ogier were violent back then. Wouldn't they have a Fightsinging song too? Or why do they only treesing? Also why only the Nym who are clearly a conduit of the Song? Why not other constructs for other purposes... You are assuming too many new ideas and powers must exist for your theory. Plain and simple.

Actually if you won't give up at all on the Song of Saidin, I will meet you half way and grant the possibility that the Song of Saidin might have something to do with all of this. It could be how the channelling and the Seed Singing all fit together. THe Voice could connect to the Song of Saidin. Perhaps Aes Sedai with the Voice can channel Saidin to the tune of the Song of Saidin which allows the Aiel, who can, to Sing and be part of the seed singing ceremony.



I don't need to provide proof. You do. I am saying they sang a song. I suggest it might be the seed song. It could also be Kumbaya for all we know. I picked a song I know the Aiel knew, and that didn't change what we know about the Randland world. You however picked a song that multiplied their powers, changing what we know about Randland. Again, Think about it. You're LITERALLY putting words in the Aiel's mouths. Take a breath, step back and realize I might have a point here, friend.



Given that you are wrong and that we do know for a fact that more than one exists, it seems that the simplest answer is that the references to Singing in obviously non crop growing situations refer to songs that have no relation to crop growing, rather than fabricating a supposed omnipotence of farming implements. As you are fond of sayings, here's a quote from Stephen Hawking: “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”

We STILL don't know the Aiel sang more than one Song. We know from the evidence they sang a special song during the seed singing that had "magically effects" on the crops. We know they sometimes sang at other times. We do NOT know they had similar "magical effects" at those times. Unless you're assuming that everytime an Aiel sang it had "magical effects". So, if that is the case, what particular magic properties do the Aiel "death durges" have? The songs the tinkers sang around the fire??

The Hawking quote is apt. It fits your statements. You are the one incorporating things into this that are assumptions based off of a few causal references that have no implications that they are involving any special abilities...