The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL
saidarisnowtainted Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM
ok, it is clear that my original post was poorly written. i'm taking an axe to the post.
I intended to convey that i dont think there are any words to remember. If it had words nobody would know the language--do we really expect someone to find magic words that do the trick?
The key is the participants.
There is a common denominator between the song's participants. The human, Ogier and Nym involved were beings whose nature focused on creation/life.
This common quality is important—it is relevant to what they are DOING with the song--they are making things GROW.
The importance of this quality (and the importance of human participation) is evidenced because the Song was lost when the Aiel stopped following the Way.
The fact that the Aiel majority forgot that they originally followed the way of the leaf lends weight to the fact that they also forgot their involvement in, and anything about, the Song.
Adding to my post:
We see the aiel, ogier and Nym seed singing.
Nym we know as constructs for growth/life.
Look at the Ogier -- even today they continue to have talents with singing that affects life. they can sing a walking stick from a living tree.
Now, look at the humans--they also participated in the seed singing. Logic dictates that their participation contributed and given that they were singing--logic dictates that their singing was special.
These humans followed the way of the leaf. That's basically the big difference between them and the rest of humanity. But it's an enormous difference. This is what stands out as the cause of their ability to sing.
So, their singing causes growth/life.
They live a lifestyle that focuses only on life.
This common denominator cant be coincidence.
I intended to convey that i dont think there are any words to remember. If it had words nobody would know the language--do we really expect someone to find magic words that do the trick?
The key is the participants.
There is a common denominator between the song's participants. The human, Ogier and Nym involved were beings whose nature focused on creation/life.
This common quality is important—it is relevant to what they are DOING with the song--they are making things GROW.
The importance of this quality (and the importance of human participation) is evidenced because the Song was lost when the Aiel stopped following the Way.
The fact that the Aiel majority forgot that they originally followed the way of the leaf lends weight to the fact that they also forgot their involvement in, and anything about, the Song.
Adding to my post:
We see the aiel, ogier and Nym seed singing.
Nym we know as constructs for growth/life.
Look at the Ogier -- even today they continue to have talents with singing that affects life. they can sing a walking stick from a living tree.
Now, look at the humans--they also participated in the seed singing. Logic dictates that their participation contributed and given that they were singing--logic dictates that their singing was special.
These humans followed the way of the leaf. That's basically the big difference between them and the rest of humanity. But it's an enormous difference. This is what stands out as the cause of their ability to sing.
So, their singing causes growth/life.
They live a lifestyle that focuses only on life.
This common denominator cant be coincidence.
This message last edited by saidarisnowtainted on 13/05/2010 at 01:22:21 AM
The Song--how it worked and why it was lost--OGIERS ARE NOT ARTIFICIAL
06/05/2010 03:25:18 AM
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there is no Song. None. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. Bupkis.
06/05/2010 04:22:38 AM
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There is a song, and maybe Rand will return it to them.
12/05/2010 07:31:32 AM
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I don't feel like going into the Song nonsense again. As for the Tinkers/Jenn...
12/05/2010 11:51:34 PM
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They DID fail the Aes Sedai; at least in their own eyes.
16/05/2010 04:59:38 AM
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it seems more likely that the sin is giving up the Way of the Leaf
19/05/2010 11:14:38 PM
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because Rand was the very first person ever to see that at Rhuidan?
13/05/2010 05:04:40 AM
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I'm quite sure the Ogier are not artificial
06/05/2010 11:32:17 AM
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I thought RJ said something about the Ogier being from another planet?
06/05/2010 02:44:21 PM
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This can be inferred from discussion of the Book of Translation *NM*
10/05/2010 10:04:05 PM
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The song was "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. It was lost when the last ter'angreal Ipod broke.
06/05/2010 02:41:42 PM
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According To The Big Book Of Bad Art
07/05/2010 11:25:20 PM
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Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art
08/05/2010 08:29:39 PM
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Re: According To The Big Book Of Bad Art
09/05/2010 01:48:49 AM
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--Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence .....
08/05/2010 03:07:55 AM
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Re: --Ogier--artificially constructed and clearly bad--killing/violence .....
10/05/2010 09:59:42 PM
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How is there "No Song?"
09/05/2010 12:44:22 AM
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Re: How is there "No Song?"
09/05/2010 01:38:36 AM
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Oh, ok. But...
09/05/2010 05:26:54 AM
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I doubt it.
09/05/2010 06:38:39 PM
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LTT asked it because he was bonkers
10/05/2010 05:22:06 AM
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I agree.
11/05/2010 12:35:43 AM
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That's not how his insanity was portrayed.
11/05/2010 02:23:08 AM
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If it weren't a Seed Song, why're the Nym needed? if not needed why did they forget how to sing?
11/05/2010 04:48:12 AM
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From where did you get the idea that Nym were needed?
11/05/2010 05:11:15 AM
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I got the part about the Nym from a sub thread in this post. One you commented on. Keep up man.
11/05/2010 05:42:14 AM
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My only post in other subthreads is a joke response to File Leader, I think?
11/05/2010 06:52:22 AM
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The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel.
11/05/2010 01:41:10 PM
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Re: The Voice is a talent like travelling for Aes Sedai. The capitalized Sing is for Aiel.
11/05/2010 07:49:02 PM
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