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Yes there was a first age, no it is not a loop. Kieran Send a noteboard - 23/04/2010 01:49:45 AM
It's only logical that there actually must have been one very first Age, immediately after the Creator made the Wheel. Of course, after countless turnings of the Wheel, the names "first Age", "second Age" and so on lost their meaning a bit, since you could also call them the 1081. Age and the 1082. Age (or whatever would fit, if you count all Ages that ever occurred). However, since the particular Ages basically always have the same activity, it makes sense to name them always from 1st Age to 7th Age and not continuously increase the numbers in the names of the Ages or change the particular numbers of the Ages (at least from the PoV from an omniscient narrator).


Indeed, the books say that each turning of the wheel has slightly more change to it. its not a loop but more like a spiral growing bigger and bigger each time. Each time it still circles, but a little bigger than the last time, or rather a little more change than last time.
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thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... mazza3 - 21/04/2010 10:32:38 PM 1224 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... GateKeeper - 22/04/2010 12:54:27 AM 871 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... Kieran - 22/04/2010 07:06:52 AM 637 Views
I don't know that there could really be a first or last Age... Fanatic-Templar - 22/04/2010 07:48:11 AM 745 Views
Yeah, it's the "third age"... DomA - 22/04/2010 02:13:56 PM 718 Views
Difficult to see how you can refer to a billion people as a "fringe"... *NM* Shannow - 22/04/2010 05:02:08 PM 324 Views
You really think half of all christians believe that Earth is only 3000 years old? *NM* Japhy - 23/04/2010 12:35:01 AM 330 Views
Last I've heard, the majority of Christians weren't fundamentalists DomA - 23/04/2010 01:54:04 PM 628 Views
How about "living on the fringe of reality"? *NM* Marshall - 24/04/2010 10:21:17 PM 327 Views
That's not entirely right Etzel - 22/04/2010 03:54:23 PM 673 Views
I think FT is saying that human conceptions of time don't apply to eternity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/04/2010 04:14:45 PM 612 Views
However, I think RJ definitely had an idea, what each Age of the 7 Ages is supposed to be. *NM* Etzel - 22/04/2010 09:53:20 PM 309 Views
I don't think so. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/04/2010 09:57:43 PM 589 Views
No, the point is... Etzel - 23/04/2010 10:06:03 AM 665 Views
Not sure what your point/question is. Doesn't seem like an issue to me quite frankly . RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/04/2010 04:45:21 PM 666 Views
The question is... Etzel - 26/04/2010 05:08:48 PM 593 Views
I agree with FT RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/04/2010 06:28:29 PM 755 Views
Well, maybe. Fanatic-Templar - 22/04/2010 06:32:05 PM 641 Views
Doesn't make sense Etzel - 22/04/2010 09:51:55 PM 580 Views
Why? Fanatic-Templar - 22/04/2010 11:16:21 PM 609 Views
Ok File Leader - 23/04/2010 12:15:03 AM 606 Views
The question isn't if it would be possible for the Creator... Etzel - 23/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 606 Views
Yes, but as we also know from the cosmology of WoT... Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 09:08:58 AM 657 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 23/04/2010 10:03:19 AM 616 Views
Why must there have been such a thing? Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 07:30:02 PM 618 Views
So, you believe there never was a first 1st Age? *NM* Etzel - 24/04/2010 08:55:45 AM 329 Views
Yes and no... Fanatic-Templar - 24/04/2010 10:55:02 PM 585 Views
Don't think so, but might be an interesting question for BS! *NM* Etzel - 25/04/2010 09:38:09 AM 298 Views
True that. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 25/04/2010 06:30:03 PM 358 Views
Yes there was a first age, no it is not a loop. Kieran - 23/04/2010 01:49:45 AM 664 Views
More change? Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 05:03:22 AM 567 Views
Re: More change? Kieran - 24/04/2010 01:25:22 AM 600 Views
On the Ages... Etzel - 22/04/2010 02:16:38 PM 896 Views
Re: On the Ages... Kieran - 23/04/2010 01:54:16 AM 613 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/04/2010 03:09:32 PM 721 Views
Nah, it's just a Tolkien rip-off... ursidae - 22/04/2010 06:05:50 PM 1042 Views
Re: thinking on the 4th-7th and 1st ages.... gjjfh - 23/04/2010 04:15:49 AM 663 Views
Can't be... Etzel - 23/04/2010 08:27:29 AM 632 Views
Yeah, but Loial apparently read a copy of The Lord of the Rings somewhere... Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 09:11:00 AM 672 Views
It's reversed... Etzel - 23/04/2010 10:10:56 AM 735 Views
I doubt it, I don't have the books with me right now... Fanatic-Templar - 23/04/2010 07:31:34 PM 680 Views
I don't think that's right. *NM* Etzel - 24/04/2010 08:57:45 AM 638 Views
You're right, that is not referenced in the book. Fanatic-Templar - 25/04/2010 06:34:29 PM 584 Views
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