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Re: I don't see how it's dumb TaskmasterJack Send a noteboard - 09/06/2012 06:18:17 PM
I guess the hardest thing to overcome is actually something that predates the prequel trilogy... And that is that killing his master to prevent the electrocution death of his son is somehow "redemption" after slaughtering hundreds/thousands/millions/billions? The personal toll of which is left to debate based on if you limit it only to personally caused murders (including the children in the Jedi temple) and if you can implicate him in the destruction of Alderaan (whose total population I do not know).

It's more like OBL bringing down Al Quaida in his final moments, before they can kill everyone in the US with their super weapon and entirely corrupt his son into their ranks. Which doesn't make him a flawless hero, considering his past, but still someone who did the right thing when the time came.


More like OBL annihilating every living American but two, twenty years later finding out his son is now American and saving his son from death by other Al`Queda by killing the other guy in charge of Al`Queda with him. Debt totally repaid.
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"..the one to bring balance to the force" dacole - 08/06/2012 08:42:49 PM 1388 Views
I was under the impression it was widely accepted that Anakin brought balance to the force... Legolas - 08/06/2012 09:36:55 PM 1061 Views
Actually, the most recent book revealed a solid answer to the prophecy. Kotagg - 08/06/2012 10:48:43 PM 1123 Views
Is that really as canon as the movies? chandra - 09/06/2012 01:29:49 AM 1029 Views
As canon as Han saying the Death Star was too big to be a space station... TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 03:21:12 PM 894 Views
Re: As canon as Han saying the Death Star was too big to be a space station... dacole - 10/06/2012 06:24:16 AM 895 Views
The books are entirely canon. Kotagg - 11/06/2012 06:46:23 AM 947 Views
Re: The books are entirely canon. dacole - 11/06/2012 04:43:47 PM 965 Views
There are certainly some inconsistencies, but very few outright contradictions. Kotagg - 11/06/2012 07:47:25 PM 960 Views
"Balance to the Force" is a numbers game. The key is in a comment by Yoda at the end of Ep. 1. TaskmasterJack - 08/06/2012 11:04:03 PM 977 Views
Re: "Balance to the Force" is a numbers game. The key is in a comment by Yoda at the end of Ep. 1. dacole - 09/06/2012 06:04:39 AM 937 Views
This. *NM* Rebekah - 09/06/2012 06:06:16 AM 469 Views
But Obi Wan said Anakin was prophecied to destroy the Sith "not join them!" And he did. Eventually. *NM* Cannoli - 11/06/2012 04:38:42 PM 535 Views
Technically, going strictly by the films, that could have been supposition rather than quotation. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 11/06/2012 10:01:16 PM 439 Views
I figured he did it by clearing the deck snoopcester - 08/06/2012 11:33:03 PM 874 Views
If things are going well, then balance is the last thing you want A Deathwatch Guard - 09/06/2012 04:46:37 AM 849 Views
Are you saying there are plot holes in Star Wars? Never! *NM* Rebekah - 09/06/2012 06:09:59 AM 578 Views
Re: If things are going well, then balance is the last thing you want dacole - 09/06/2012 06:17:44 AM 925 Views
I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ ironclad - 09/06/2012 10:19:01 AM 943 Views
Re: I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ DomA - 09/06/2012 11:42:32 AM 955 Views
Re: I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ dacole - 11/06/2012 04:49:06 PM 849 Views
This will sound offensive, sorry, but that sounds incredibly dumb. TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 03:09:20 PM 971 Views
I don't see how it's dumb ironclad - 09/06/2012 04:26:43 PM 943 Views
Re: I don't see how it's dumb TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 06:18:17 PM 852 Views
I don't like your analogy - organisation vs nationality snoopcester - 09/06/2012 07:06:44 PM 870 Views
What if I had said Christians instead of Americans? Then you'd have the comparison you favor. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 08:44:21 PM 457 Views
No I wouldn't, I'm frankly confused as to why you think I would favour that more snoopcester - 09/06/2012 09:03:28 PM 948 Views
Not ideal maybe, but more an organization of people than a nation of people. TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2012 12:11:51 AM 817 Views
Even at best you are takling of a multitude of organisations snoopcester - 10/06/2012 08:23:28 AM 862 Views
What you seem to be overlooking... Legolas - 09/06/2012 08:50:30 PM 995 Views
Precisely *NM* ironclad - 09/06/2012 10:17:18 PM 468 Views
I'm not overlooking it. I just don't view the moment as one of "balance achievement". TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2012 12:09:45 AM 919 Views
Your other posts don't sound as if you see what I'm getting at here... Legolas - 10/06/2012 12:22:02 AM 828 Views
No, I do. You probably read my tangent about my disagreement with Lucas about Vader's redemption. TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2012 12:41:36 AM 980 Views
Also... TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2012 12:18:11 AM 937 Views
Another thing. TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 03:13:43 PM 830 Views
The concept of evil in SW (like in WOT) is Zoroastrian, not Taoist DomA - 09/06/2012 12:26:20 PM 885 Views
*Like* *NM* Stephen - 09/06/2012 02:13:15 PM 467 Views
Re: The concept of evil in SW (like in WOT) is Zoroastrian, not Taoist dacole - 11/06/2012 05:05:31 PM 970 Views
The problem with Star Wars is that smart people analyze it, but... it's pretty simplistic beetnemesis - 10/06/2012 03:34:13 AM 991 Views
Re: The problem with Star Wars is that smart people analyze it, but... it's pretty simplistic dacole - 11/06/2012 05:06:54 PM 975 Views
I always saw it as... j-whitt987 - 16/06/2012 04:40:00 AM 1062 Views
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