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Re: I don't see how it's dumb TaskmasterJack Send a noteboard - 09/06/2012 06:18:17 PM
I guess the hardest thing to overcome is actually something that predates the prequel trilogy... And that is that killing his master to prevent the electrocution death of his son is somehow "redemption" after slaughtering hundreds/thousands/millions/billions? The personal toll of which is left to debate based on if you limit it only to personally caused murders (including the children in the Jedi temple) and if you can implicate him in the destruction of Alderaan (whose total population I do not know).

It's more like OBL bringing down Al Quaida in his final moments, before they can kill everyone in the US with their super weapon and entirely corrupt his son into their ranks. Which doesn't make him a flawless hero, considering his past, but still someone who did the right thing when the time came.


More like OBL annihilating every living American but two, twenty years later finding out his son is now American and saving his son from death by other Al`Queda by killing the other guy in charge of Al`Queda with him. Debt totally repaid.
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"..the one to bring balance to the force" dacole - 08/06/2012 08:42:49 PM 1452 Views
I was under the impression it was widely accepted that Anakin brought balance to the force... Legolas - 08/06/2012 09:36:55 PM 1134 Views
Actually, the most recent book revealed a solid answer to the prophecy. Kotagg - 08/06/2012 10:48:43 PM 1193 Views
Is that really as canon as the movies? chandra - 09/06/2012 01:29:49 AM 1080 Views
As canon as Han saying the Death Star was too big to be a space station... TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 03:21:12 PM 960 Views
Re: As canon as Han saying the Death Star was too big to be a space station... dacole - 10/06/2012 06:24:16 AM 955 Views
The books are entirely canon. Kotagg - 11/06/2012 06:46:23 AM 1044 Views
Re: The books are entirely canon. dacole - 11/06/2012 04:43:47 PM 1042 Views
There are certainly some inconsistencies, but very few outright contradictions. Kotagg - 11/06/2012 07:47:25 PM 1026 Views
"Balance to the Force" is a numbers game. The key is in a comment by Yoda at the end of Ep. 1. TaskmasterJack - 08/06/2012 11:04:03 PM 1040 Views
Re: "Balance to the Force" is a numbers game. The key is in a comment by Yoda at the end of Ep. 1. dacole - 09/06/2012 06:04:39 AM 998 Views
This. *NM* Rebekah - 09/06/2012 06:06:16 AM 493 Views
But Obi Wan said Anakin was prophecied to destroy the Sith "not join them!" And he did. Eventually. *NM* Cannoli - 11/06/2012 04:38:42 PM 558 Views
Technically, going strictly by the films, that could have been supposition rather than quotation. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 11/06/2012 10:01:16 PM 470 Views
I figured he did it by clearing the deck snoopcester - 08/06/2012 11:33:03 PM 937 Views
If things are going well, then balance is the last thing you want A Deathwatch Guard - 09/06/2012 04:46:37 AM 915 Views
Are you saying there are plot holes in Star Wars? Never! *NM* Rebekah - 09/06/2012 06:09:59 AM 606 Views
Re: If things are going well, then balance is the last thing you want dacole - 09/06/2012 06:17:44 AM 990 Views
I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ ironclad - 09/06/2012 10:19:01 AM 1001 Views
Re: I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ DomA - 09/06/2012 11:42:32 AM 1010 Views
Re: I still think the bringing balance refers to what happens AFTER ROTJ dacole - 11/06/2012 04:49:06 PM 908 Views
This will sound offensive, sorry, but that sounds incredibly dumb. TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 03:09:20 PM 1030 Views
I don't see how it's dumb ironclad - 09/06/2012 04:26:43 PM 1002 Views
Re: I don't see how it's dumb TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 06:18:17 PM 910 Views
I don't like your analogy - organisation vs nationality snoopcester - 09/06/2012 07:06:44 PM 943 Views
What if I had said Christians instead of Americans? Then you'd have the comparison you favor. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 08:44:21 PM 482 Views
No I wouldn't, I'm frankly confused as to why you think I would favour that more snoopcester - 09/06/2012 09:03:28 PM 1013 Views
Not ideal maybe, but more an organization of people than a nation of people. TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2012 12:11:51 AM 873 Views
Even at best you are takling of a multitude of organisations snoopcester - 10/06/2012 08:23:28 AM 929 Views
What you seem to be overlooking... Legolas - 09/06/2012 08:50:30 PM 1060 Views
Precisely *NM* ironclad - 09/06/2012 10:17:18 PM 501 Views
I'm not overlooking it. I just don't view the moment as one of "balance achievement". TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2012 12:09:45 AM 979 Views
Your other posts don't sound as if you see what I'm getting at here... Legolas - 10/06/2012 12:22:02 AM 893 Views
No, I do. You probably read my tangent about my disagreement with Lucas about Vader's redemption. TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2012 12:41:36 AM 1049 Views
Also... TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2012 12:18:11 AM 1009 Views
Another thing. TaskmasterJack - 09/06/2012 03:13:43 PM 881 Views
The concept of evil in SW (like in WOT) is Zoroastrian, not Taoist DomA - 09/06/2012 12:26:20 PM 952 Views
*Like* *NM* Stephen - 09/06/2012 02:13:15 PM 495 Views
Re: The concept of evil in SW (like in WOT) is Zoroastrian, not Taoist dacole - 11/06/2012 05:05:31 PM 1046 Views
The problem with Star Wars is that smart people analyze it, but... it's pretty simplistic beetnemesis - 10/06/2012 03:34:13 AM 1047 Views
Re: The problem with Star Wars is that smart people analyze it, but... it's pretty simplistic dacole - 11/06/2012 05:06:54 PM 1050 Views
I always saw it as... j-whitt987 - 16/06/2012 04:40:00 AM 1126 Views
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