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So: Action roles should have bigger women. Vivien Send a noteboard - 18/01/2012 03:29:38 AM

Now women in action that I'm familiar with:

Xena: probably the best example of a non frail looking woman in a lead action role. However, her outfit probably made her look bigger but thats beside the point, its the overall impression that matters.

Buffy: extremely frail looking. That was part of the story that a slayer can look frail but be magically strong but even so her thinness and extreme (apparent) frailty was at times distracting.

Nikita (current version): Inititally I thought she looked thin and frail but Maggie Q has really won me over and I really like her a lot.

I've never been one who considers women somehow inferior to men. Yes, on average, women are physically weaker than men. That's just nature. Things like this have a purpose in nature. So, with that said, I never understood how anyone could view women as somehow "weaker" than men. Men have no inherent superiority over women. But, generally, the human race has ruled by strength. This probably led to thinking that women were inferior. When this thinking is slowly corrected, which I believe it largely has, it can led to something I call "over-correction." We have perhaps become so vigorous in our attempt to make up for our past that we go overboard. This brings me around to my topic of women in action roles. Namely, that we have given women abilities that they do not possess.

Let me clarify. Have you ever heard of reverse-racism? I believe this is the same concept. In this present culture, we have gone beyond the equilibrium and have actually become somewhat condescending to women. Case in point: I finally got around to watching Captain America (2011) on DVD. There is a scene where new Army recruits have shown up for basic training. In this scene, Hayley Atwell, playing Officer Peggy Carter, cold-cocks this new recruit and lays he out flat, like you see in a dozen war movies depicting basic training. The problem with this scene? Hayley Atwell is all 5'6" and about 110 pounds. She hits this guy with a closed fist and he's knocked out flat. I'm sorry, but this woman has no super powers. Most likely, the guy's head would have turned with the punch and it might have stung. And she would have probably broken her hand.

This got me thinking about all the other action movies I've seen featuring sexy, thin actresses playing action heroes. Can you imagine an typical Hollywood actress getting into a fist fight with a MMA fighter? I don't care how much martial arts training a character has, she would get torn apart by a professional figher. Yet, we constantly see small, thin women beat big, burly fighters in fist fights. Isn't that a little condescending to women? We went from saying that women are inferior creatures to that they can beat us big, bad men in a fist fight. How realistic is that? When I see previews for this new movie called "Haywire," I just have to shake my head.

Again, women are in no way inferior to men, other than basic genetic stuff that nobody has any control over, and vice versa. I know it's just movies and tv shows. It's fantasy, I get it. But I don't like the reasoning behind it. It almost feels like the entertainment industry leaders are winking at the audience. Perhaps they are simply cashing in on the fact that maybe women want to see a movie where a woman kicks ass. Whatever the reason, I think it's pretty condescending. But yeah, that's just me.
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A thought about women in action roles - 17/01/2012 10:42:28 PM 1400 Views
The actress in Haywire is a former MMA fighter. - 17/01/2012 11:13:03 PM 751 Views
Ok bad example - 18/01/2012 01:03:45 AM 701 Views
How many men did she beat in those fights? - 18/01/2012 01:47:04 AM 692 Views
Regular but fit guys still wouldn't stand a chance, I guess. - 18/01/2012 08:23:07 AM 666 Views
I don't know - 18/01/2012 02:21:24 PM 747 Views
Haywire may not be the best example - 17/01/2012 11:33:31 PM 740 Views
I thought she was an American Gladiator? *NM* - 18/01/2012 01:04:20 AM 312 Views
you're not wrong - 18/01/2012 05:37:51 AM 635 Views
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Crush. *NM* - 18/01/2012 08:31:06 PM 314 Views
You rarely ever see that kind of stuff in "realistic" movies... - 17/01/2012 11:53:33 PM 677 Views
What about Enough with Jennifer Lopez? - 18/01/2012 01:05:13 AM 623 Views
I've thought about it before. - 18/01/2012 12:22:29 AM 852 Views
So: Action roles should have bigger women. - 18/01/2012 03:29:38 AM 761 Views
Actually, Buffy is worse because it implies women need magic to be useful. - 18/01/2012 05:34:09 AM 759 Views
That's what you got from watching Buffy? *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:38:06 PM 362 Views
There's not much to get FROM Buffy *NM* - 18/01/2012 06:46:35 PM 314 Views
magic isn't what makes women useful - 19/01/2012 04:51:35 AM 676 Views
I really doubt the outfit did much to make Xena look big. - 18/01/2012 06:53:59 PM 603 Views
I challenge you to say that while wearing her costume. *NM* - 18/01/2012 10:03:09 PM 297 Views
I'm pretty sure I would look frumpy and ridiculous - 19/01/2012 12:37:07 AM 623 Views
Lucy Lawless is pretty much Amazonian. - 19/01/2012 09:28:11 AM 903 Views
It's true that she's not as tiny as others. - 19/01/2012 05:46:59 PM 611 Views
"Not as tiny as the others" is about the best you can say for her. - 19/01/2012 08:54:03 PM 604 Views
of course she could - 19/01/2012 11:17:39 PM 612 Views
No. - 20/01/2012 03:55:20 AM 784 Views
aahahaha. this makes me laugh. *NM* - 19/01/2012 07:18:26 PM 321 Views
Re: A thought about women in action roles - 18/01/2012 04:13:27 AM 624 Views
The problem I had with that scene is what I call Buffy Syndrome. - 18/01/2012 05:10:59 AM 764 Views
Wellll - 18/01/2012 01:26:24 PM 646 Views
Re: A thought about women in action roles - 18/01/2012 07:50:28 PM 754 Views
She is some kind of super hero in super hero movie, is't she? *NM* - 19/01/2012 07:30:50 AM 331 Views
I don't think she's technically supposed to have super powers. - 19/01/2012 08:58:40 PM 616 Views
The Avengers are going to be such a lame team - 19/01/2012 09:13:18 PM 693 Views
This is exactly what I think of the movie as well - 19/01/2012 11:24:16 PM 726 Views
Contemplating the female action hero…let’s talk about Ripley - 19/01/2012 09:24:18 PM 739 Views
So did anyone actually see Haywire this weekend? - 23/01/2012 02:34:43 PM 637 Views
It just depends on how much you're willing to accept. - 23/01/2012 04:23:36 PM 639 Views
You're nitpicking and drawing an arbitrary line. All action is ridiculously unbelievable. *NM* - 24/01/2012 04:53:40 AM 348 Views
I tend to agree with you. - 24/01/2012 05:25:45 AM 640 Views
Realism alone is not the issue. - 24/01/2012 03:42:21 PM 604 Views

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