I specifically asked for Rangrande, not Hobo, make no pretense here, it was established you and Hobo weren't aligned based on yesterday, your accusing him again proved nothing and this was explained.

Well, hate to point this out but Hobo voted for Ranangrande half an hour before your post. So.... yeah. I was looking from each of you for a strong indicator that you werne't allied to anyone. You and hobo were ruled, so while Rana could have voted for anyone but me and proved half, you and Hobo had the option to vote for anyone but each other (or me) which was Rana to actually prove something, You refused, are dancing bizarre contradictory nonsense about why, and he just popped in and said, "Sure, rather FT but rana". He complied with a simple request. He might be scum, you might think he's allied to me and/or backstabbing me, but my only interest for the moment was eliminating him as part of a duo, which he's done. You haven't, rana hasn't.

So, your big thesis here that concludes with absolute certainty that I must be scum, must be allied to Hobo, and must be getting stabbed in the back by him is now proven by him doing the one single thing that absolutely makes that impossible. Changes nothing for me though.

Why not 4 Italians and 2 Japanese and 2 Russians? Why not 3-2-2, or 3-2-1, why is that unbalanced? A 2-some could have a RB and a mole, and be stronger than a vanilla 3-some. You're oversimplifying your analysis to raw numbers. Also bad assumptions, as I've mentioned, I never took Berg's "we need 12" as 12 exactly but 12+ so these various must add to 12 scenarios don't really hit my bell even if I didn't think this was straight addition. Your whole framework for balance ignores roles and ignores that multi-faction rarely is balanced - What's fair about a 10-3-1 Town-Scum-SK for the SK? - and that in multi-faction it doesn't really matter anyway.

And again your house of cards just got torched by Hobo so this is kind of a redundant line of reasoning.

Well the victims of the Japanese appear to have been stabbed or cut, by Katanas specifically in one case, and the Italians shot people. Praz (italian) was stabbed, presumably by a Katana, whereas Artsapat (Italian) was strangled. So I'm guessing you've got that backwards.

That I'd agree with, beyond my dubiousness about assuming the IJR neat little package arrangement.

Consideirng one of our two dead Japanese has a gun wound and is lying on the ground next to a dead Italian he obviously stabbed I'm not buying you premise that the Italians never killed a Japanese.

I think you're fixated on the equivalent of a geocentric model of the Universe. There's several blatant incorrect lines of reasoning there.