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FT is correct, in spite of the confusion aspect this is good news for us Isaac Send a noteboard - 21/08/2013 12:50:48 PM

View original postI did not expect this. You believe what you want, but we keep this up and we're going to get wiped out pretty quickly with so many night kills. So are there any lists of potential roles of folks beyond Mafia with kill powers? Because facing a night like that I would like to get all caught up. While three kills makes me wonder if this is even winnable townie-wise, since scum seem to have a real advantage here, are organizations other than mafia ever a thing?

Quite a few roles have night kill powers, town, scum, etc as well as reflexive options like the PGO I mentioned above. As of now we have 2 dead scum and 2 dead town. Victory comes, in a normal game, when the scum are eliminated for the town and when the scum make up half or more of the players when not. So for instance if there were 3 of team they'd win if the town had 3 and they had 3 living, by default. Technically victory comes when only an obviously suicidal action could prevent victory by a given team, like 2 allied scum and 1 townie and the scum voting for one of each other. With the multiple dead scummers though we probably have an extra killer runner around, possibly one of the dead. If I had to guess at the most probable, then 3 scum plus a SK and the scum are now 2 and the SK dead, with someone having done the extra kill, a vigilante or PGO. On the other hand we could have 2 teams of 2 scum or 3 teams of 2 scum. In any event the town has a lead right now I'd think.


View original postWhat if half of us are dead by day 2? That so would be a mafia coup right? Do townies have a way to lynch multiple victims? There almost would have to be. We're gone otherwise.

Well for an auto victory for the scum to happen right this moment they'd need to have a 4-person faction and the town would have to have no double voters or vigilantes, we couldn't vote for one of them to die otherwise without their help which they would do even if we had someone bang to rights guilty. Or some third faction running around, another scum faction or SK or cult. There's another possible scum kill now I think on it, cults aren't allowed to recruit scum faction members, and the typical result is for them to die trying or kill their target or even both, depending on version. The notion of a cult is fairly disturbing but they could easily have just wiped themselves out.

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Mafia 32 - No fancy Title - Day 2 - 19/08/2013 08:46:29 PM 1277 Views
Okay, that was unexpected. - 19/08/2013 09:57:26 PM 698 Views
Re: Okay, that was unexpected. - 19/08/2013 11:14:35 PM 859 Views
Or a PGO for that matter - 19/08/2013 11:26:28 PM 933 Views
Yeah, but two were scum. - 20/08/2013 02:24:49 AM 887 Views
I tend to agree - 20/08/2013 02:57:44 AM 725 Views
Plus... - 20/08/2013 03:00:04 AM 749 Views
I've been out of the game for a while. What's a PGO? *NM* - 20/08/2013 02:34:32 AM 457 Views
Paranoid Gun Owner. Kills anyone who targets them at night. *NM* - 20/08/2013 02:48:01 AM 450 Views
Paranoid Gun Owner - 20/08/2013 02:53:45 AM 949 Views
Re: Okay, that was unexpected. - 20/08/2013 02:22:41 AM 713 Views
Re: Okay, that was unexpected. - 20/08/2013 02:43:19 AM 782 Views
Re: Okay, that was unexpected. - 20/08/2013 03:21:22 AM 876 Views
Implications from the deaths - 19/08/2013 11:46:05 PM 759 Views
Re: Implications from the deaths - 20/08/2013 02:51:41 AM 744 Views
Well that was surprising. - 20/08/2013 05:00:39 AM 819 Views
Re: Well that was surprising. - 20/08/2013 05:24:55 AM 702 Views
So, how many people can we LYnch again? - 21/08/2013 04:48:55 AM 924 Views
One. - 21/08/2013 05:25:10 AM 700 Views
FT is correct, in spite of the confusion aspect this is good news for us - 21/08/2013 12:50:48 PM 843 Views
Table - Name Claim and Hypocop - 21/08/2013 05:26:52 AM 935 Views
My name is Derek Hansen. Dannymac is innocent. *NM* - 21/08/2013 06:18:19 AM 517 Views
Name: Roger Green. Isaac is innocent *NM* - 21/08/2013 12:37:13 PM 490 Views
I'm Michael Cook, and Isaac is innocent *NM* - 21/08/2013 05:58:07 PM 497 Views
I'm Irina Sokolov and Sacrilicious Toast is guilty *NM* - 21/08/2013 08:13:34 PM 713 Views
Re: I'm Irina Sokolov and Sacrilicious Toast is guilty - 22/08/2013 08:25:00 AM 861 Views
Re: Table - Name Claim and Hypocop - 22/08/2013 08:23:03 AM 851 Views
I'm Frank Hodges, and I'm unsure about Isaac. *NM* - 24/08/2013 06:00:23 PM 545 Views
*Poke, poke, poke* *NM* - 23/08/2013 10:54:11 AM 515 Views
I think we're all waiting on Dannymac. I know I am. *NM* - 23/08/2013 12:14:41 PM 499 Views
Yup. *NM* - 23/08/2013 06:04:28 PM 483 Views
Me too! *NM* - 23/08/2013 06:24:27 PM 486 Views
I'll poke him. *NM* - 23/08/2013 06:37:09 PM 443 Views
Me three! Plus, not sure what to talk about. *NM* - 23/08/2013 06:52:04 PM 509 Views
So, the reason I asked for names... - 24/08/2013 06:33:21 PM 731 Views
I don't see the case against Hobo - 24/08/2013 07:18:54 PM 819 Views
I'm pretty sure Yunalesca is scum. - 24/08/2013 09:21:26 PM 700 Views
Aren't questions like that against the spirit of Hypocop? - 25/08/2013 08:23:57 PM 803 Views
Not quite. - 25/08/2013 09:04:26 PM 857 Views
Although I do approve of the occasional uncertain result. - 25/08/2013 10:26:18 PM 720 Views
You can just say you were roleblocked. - 25/08/2013 10:37:07 PM 869 Views
Hah, so I did . I thought it was a clever thing to do . - 26/08/2013 01:47:34 AM 860 Views
Apologies, then. - 25/08/2013 11:56:48 PM 660 Views
He HC'd correctly Rana - 26/08/2013 05:16:22 AM 716 Views
Let's ponder these names for a bit - 25/08/2013 12:07:50 AM 1049 Views
You've got the order wrong. - 25/08/2013 12:31:05 AM 780 Views
Interesting, yes I missed that - 25/08/2013 12:54:51 AM 772 Views
Funny that we've come to the opposite conclusions . - 25/08/2013 12:50:53 AM 830 Views
Re: Funny that we've come to the opposite conclusions . - 25/08/2013 01:11:27 AM 722 Views
Re: Funny that we've come to the opposite conclusions . - 25/08/2013 02:37:26 AM 835 Views
Re: Funny that we've come to the opposite conclusions . - 25/08/2013 04:14:37 AM 821 Views
Also, I did say that Hansen was Danish . *NM* - 25/08/2013 12:55:37 AM 389 Views
Wow, I'm slipping, 2 for 1 today - 25/08/2013 12:58:40 AM 692 Views
I'm not sure what FT is looking for me to say in order to defend myself... - 26/08/2013 07:06:36 PM 805 Views
Re: I'm not sure what FT is looking for me to say in order to defend myself... - 26/08/2013 07:29:54 PM 712 Views
Not much for me to say. - 26/08/2013 07:53:21 PM 878 Views
FWIW, vote: Yunalesca - 26/08/2013 08:40:38 PM 774 Views
You're russian (your name doesn't sound russian...)? Also, FWIW? *NM* - 26/08/2013 08:44:02 PM 557 Views
For What its Worth - 26/08/2013 08:51:28 PM 712 Views
Ah. I see it now. *NM* - 26/08/2013 09:16:34 PM 424 Views
Sure, if it's easier to get this to work. - 26/08/2013 09:07:58 PM 856 Views
I think I agree with killing Hobo more. - 26/08/2013 11:05:40 PM 924 Views
Yeah, so do I, but people seem to strongly favour the "stare vacantly" option. - 26/08/2013 11:23:46 PM 763 Views
Re: FWIW, vote: Yunalesca - 27/08/2013 02:53:11 PM 712 Views
I'd like to post an indefinite RBIRL - 27/08/2013 02:02:53 PM 789 Views
Weeell? *NM* - 28/08/2013 12:32:48 PM 464 Views
All right, we might as well move forward - 28/08/2013 12:52:00 PM 823 Views
Re: All right, we might as well move forward - 29/08/2013 02:41:31 AM 789 Views
My roleclaim. - 29/08/2013 02:56:47 PM 779 Views
Re: My roleclaim. - 29/08/2013 07:00:58 PM 711 Views
Re: My roleclaim. - 30/08/2013 12:37:24 AM 869 Views
Dooes anyone have anything else before we close the day out? - 30/08/2013 04:36:37 AM 768 Views
Doesn't look like anyone does. - 30/08/2013 06:05:42 PM 732 Views
Okay then, Vote: Yunalesca - 30/08/2013 06:10:44 PM 863 Views
Vote: Yunalesca - 30/08/2013 02:03:41 AM 741 Views
Yunalesca has been lynched. - 30/08/2013 07:06:59 PM 769 Views
Just out of curiosity... - 31/08/2013 10:45:41 AM 824 Views
Re: Just out of curiosity... - 31/08/2013 12:55:07 PM 939 Views
Re: Just out of curiosity... - 31/08/2013 04:00:31 PM 790 Views
RBIRL - I'll be gone most of the weekend, last LARP of the season. *NM* - 06/09/2013 05:23:25 PM 446 Views
VOTE: FT - 07/09/2013 01:22:57 AM 768 Views
VOTE: FT - 07/09/2013 01:22:58 AM 736 Views

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