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What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom Send a noteboard - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM

Here are some written interrogatories, counsel.

  1. Please cite the study or studies that form the basis for your conclusion that trigger warnings are useful and/or psychologically beneficial.

  2. List, with particularity, every proposed condition or experience that qualifies for the insertion of trigger warnings.

  3. Provide, in detail, the proposed format through which your trigger warnings would be inserted.

  4. Indicate your policy, if any, for books that are currently in print and circulation, as well as any proposed modifications.

  5. Detail the anticipated cost of any and all actions you seek to implement.

  6. Provide full details on what sanctions, if any, you would use to enforce your proposed change.

  7. Cite, with particularity, situations in which an individual was "triggered" that would reasonably justify the actions you propose.

  8. Provide an analysis that shows that your proposed actions would not have a material negative impact on Constitutional rights of citizens, publishers or others.

  9. Provide an analysis that shows that your proposed actions would not have a material negative impact on literature, the arts generally, or the creative process as a whole.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2348 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 892 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 814 Views
This makes me especially sad. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 740 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 556 Views
Definitely a possibility. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 752 Views
I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM 828 Views
Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO? Tom - 17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM 764 Views
Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy. Legolas - 17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM 757 Views
Ok, fair enough Tom - 17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM 710 Views
Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM 730 Views
Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM 883 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* Hieshyn - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 503 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 494 Views
Interesting damookster - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 802 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 754 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority Roland00 - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 803 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 457 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* Roland00 - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 467 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 random thoughts - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 720 Views
I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 812 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 786 Views
So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM 775 Views
This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 852 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1052 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 772 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 785 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 787 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 699 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 761 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 743 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 696 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 718 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 893 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 775 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 749 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 922 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 701 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 736 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 764 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 729 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 858 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 431 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 666 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 703 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 712 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 509 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 861 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 758 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 454 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 829 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 758 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 735 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 773 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 747 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 734 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 674 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 686 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 690 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 878 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 424 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 539 Views
Agreed. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 851 Views
Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 766 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? Roland00 - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 723 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 782 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 727 Views
I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 727 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 698 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 877 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 822 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 840 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 848 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 853 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 723 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 420 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 712 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 763 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 713 Views
So now we are at episode 6 The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 637 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 437 Views
Yes The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 716 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 666 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 390 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 496 Views
*NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 432 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 417 Views
Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 457 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 778 Views
Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 786 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 749 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 750 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 727 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 456 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 462 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 791 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 490 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail Roland00 - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 794 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 810 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 742 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 664 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 395 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 739 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 644 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 721 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 704 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 782 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 751 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 676 Views
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