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I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... MightyYT Send a noteboard - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM
I put down some good money on a PS2 (because for some unfathomable reason the PS3 doesn't play PS2 games) and bought Final Fantasy 12. I loved FF 7&8, 9 was to kiddy for me and I loved 10. And I haven't played a FF in game for so long. I was positively drooling to play a new one, which accounts for my regrettable decision of buying a PS2 just for one game.

So the verdict...bleh. What a letdown. I don't know if FF magic has dulled on me, but the storyline for FF 12 was boring as hell. I didn't care for any characters and thats saying something for a FF game. What am I missing here?


Namely, 8-10. I consider those the dark years of Final Fantasy (and I don't even consider 11 to be part of the series)

I thought 12's biggest flaw was the time it took to actually get into the game. It was 4-5 hours before you get out in the world and another 3-4 until you actually had enough of the gambits to play around/customize with.

The ability board was the best system Final Fantasy has had so far. It seemed to combine 7 and 10's system with great effect.

I found the characters to be more entertaining and less annoying than those of 10. Vaan is less of a pansy than Tidus, Balthier and Fran made a good team (Fran still has the sexiest voice in Video Games to me). What I liked most about the story, is it didn't focus on Vaan. He was just sort of there most of the time, just witnessing the events while everyone else made the decisions. I also found the War Between Empires to be a little refreshing than the typical Big Bad from the start, like FF 6.

Everyone has their own tastes though. To my tastes, 12 was a better RPG than previous incarnations of Final Fantasy.
Castle: This is so weird. I dressed up as him for Halloween.

Beckett: Me too.

~When Castle and Beckett met Gene Simmons.
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So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12... Dark Knight - 24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM 867 Views
The story in FF12 leaves much to be desired Dragonsworn - 24/09/2009 10:41:28 PM 753 Views
I love FF but I didn't even bother to finish 12 *NM* Marius2000 - 24/09/2009 10:45:55 PM 329 Views
You're not alone- the characters just didn't click for me, nor did the plot beetnemesis - 24/09/2009 11:16:11 PM 671 Views
Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions. Joker - 25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM 697 Views
FF7?!?! You're a nutcase! Kotagg - 25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM 649 Views
It was still good though Brian - 26/09/2009 03:06:12 AM 540 Views
Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM 699 Views
I will have to disagree with this... MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM 600 Views
Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole. Kotagg - 26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM 717 Views
Still, it's good for a videogame story. Joker - 26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM 638 Views
I agree, with caveat. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM 750 Views
New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels. Joker - 28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM 663 Views
I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM* Cymbaline - 28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 318 Views
What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM* Joker - 01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM 335 Views
Ah, I see. *NM* Joker - 03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM 354 Views
Say what? Cymbaline - 04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM 602 Views
"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer." Joker - 05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM 621 Views
So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three? Cymbaline - 05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM 560 Views
I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one Joker - 06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM 669 Views
I... don't think you understand how this works. Cymbaline - 06/10/2009 11:41:12 PM 613 Views
Anything of worth? Joker - 09/10/2009 03:24:42 AM 599 Views
Cymbaline is right. Some games have excellent stories. MightyYT - 29/09/2009 10:44:16 AM 591 Views
And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM 696 Views
The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM 596 Views
That's basically what I meant. lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM 582 Views
Yeah I understand. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM 661 Views
You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM 613 Views
I suppose it is, at that. Aemon - 25/09/2009 01:58:25 PM 651 Views
Well said. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM 623 Views
I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... MightyYT - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM 603 Views
I agree. *NM* Manusho - 25/09/2009 02:44:08 AM 419 Views
The grid was fine, but didn't scale well. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM 592 Views
I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP Jragghen - 25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM 661 Views
I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM 628 Views
It's interesting.... lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM 652 Views
Plot doesn't kick in until later on, sadly Jragghen - 26/09/2009 07:27:55 PM 605 Views
I partially agree with LoS, and I partially disagree with you. Cymbaline - 27/09/2009 12:07:07 AM 694 Views
Opinion mine: 12 was a great game, and a terrible Final Fantasy. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:03:28 AM 666 Views
I didn't like it and didn't finish *NM* Deadsy - 25/09/2009 05:34:42 AM 312 Views
i finished it recently and i found it allright Yunalesca - 25/09/2009 11:30:36 AM 814 Views
Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM 673 Views
I agree with this. MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:22:40 AM 657 Views
LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever? TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM 623 Views
That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM 357 Views
Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level. TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM 621 Views
Ah, I must have missed the typo. lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 08:32:51 PM 677 Views
So much confusion everywhere! Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:48:32 PM 694 Views
Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though. Aemon - 26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM 663 Views
Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM 866 Views
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