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I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... MightyYT Send a noteboard - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM

I put down some good money on a PS2 (because for some unfathomable reason the PS3 doesn't play PS2 games) and bought Final Fantasy 12. I loved FF 7&8, 9 was to kiddy for me and I loved 10. And I haven't played a FF in game for so long. I was positively drooling to play a new one, which accounts for my regrettable decision of buying a PS2 just for one game.

So the verdict...bleh. What a letdown. I don't know if FF magic has dulled on me, but the storyline for FF 12 was boring as hell. I didn't care for any characters and thats saying something for a FF game. What am I missing here?

Namely, 8-10. I consider those the dark years of Final Fantasy (and I don't even consider 11 to be part of the series)

I thought 12's biggest flaw was the time it took to actually get into the game. It was 4-5 hours before you get out in the world and another 3-4 until you actually had enough of the gambits to play around/customize with.

The ability board was the best system Final Fantasy has had so far. It seemed to combine 7 and 10's system with great effect.

I found the characters to be more entertaining and less annoying than those of 10. Vaan is less of a pansy than Tidus, Balthier and Fran made a good team (Fran still has the sexiest voice in Video Games to me). What I liked most about the story, is it didn't focus on Vaan. He was just sort of there most of the time, just witnessing the events while everyone else made the decisions. I also found the War Between Empires to be a little refreshing than the typical Big Bad from the start, like FF 6.

Everyone has their own tastes though. To my tastes, 12 was a better RPG than previous incarnations of Final Fantasy.

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So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12... Dark Knight - 24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM 867 Views

The story in FF12 leaves much to be desired

Dragonsworn - 24/09/2009 10:41:28 PM 754 Views

I love FF but I didn't even bother to finish 12 *NM* Marius2000 - 24/09/2009 10:45:55 PM 329 Views

You're not alone- the characters just didn't click for me, nor did the plot beetnemesis - 24/09/2009 11:16:11 PM 672 Views

Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions. Joker - 25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM 697 Views

FF7?!?! You're a nutcase! Kotagg - 25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM 649 Views

It was still good though Brian - 26/09/2009 03:06:12 AM 540 Views

Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM 699 Views

I will have to disagree with this... MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM 600 Views

Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole. Kotagg - 26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM 717 Views

Still, it's good for a videogame story. Joker - 26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM 638 Views

I agree, with caveat. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM 751 Views

New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels. Joker - 28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM 663 Views

I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM* Cymbaline - 28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 318 Views

What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM* Joker - 01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM 335 Views

Ah, I see. *NM* Joker - 03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM 354 Views

Say what? Cymbaline - 04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM 603 Views

"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer." Joker - 05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM 621 Views

So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three? Cymbaline - 05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM 561 Views

I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one

Joker - 06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM 669 Views

I... don't think you understand how this works. Cymbaline - 06/10/2009 11:41:12 PM 613 Views

Anything of worth? Joker - 09/10/2009 03:24:42 AM 599 Views

Cymbaline is right. Some games have excellent stories. MightyYT - 29/09/2009 10:44:16 AM 593 Views

And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM 697 Views

The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM 596 Views

That's basically what I meant. lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM 583 Views

Yeah I understand. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM 661 Views

You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM 613 Views

I suppose it is, at that. Aemon - 25/09/2009 01:58:25 PM 652 Views

Well said. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM 623 Views

I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... MightyYT - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM 604 Views

I agree. *NM* Manusho - 25/09/2009 02:44:08 AM 419 Views

The grid was fine, but didn't scale well. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM 592 Views

I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP Jragghen - 25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM 663 Views

I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM 629 Views

It's interesting.... lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM 652 Views

Plot doesn't kick in until later on, sadly Jragghen - 26/09/2009 07:27:55 PM 605 Views

I partially agree with LoS, and I partially disagree with you. Cymbaline - 27/09/2009 12:07:07 AM 694 Views

Opinion mine: 12 was a great game, and a terrible Final Fantasy. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:03:28 AM 667 Views

I didn't like it and didn't finish *NM* Deadsy - 25/09/2009 05:34:42 AM 312 Views

i finished it recently and i found it allright Yunalesca - 25/09/2009 11:30:36 AM 814 Views

Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM 675 Views

I agree with this. MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:22:40 AM 659 Views

LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever? TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM 625 Views

That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM 357 Views

Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level. TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM 621 Views

Ah, I must have missed the typo. lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 08:32:51 PM 678 Views

So much confusion everywhere! Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:48:32 PM 694 Views

Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though. Aemon - 26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM 663 Views

Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM 866 Views

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<quote id="23458">I put down some good money on a PS2 (because for some unfathomable reason the PS3 doesn't play PS2 games) and bought Final Fantasy 12.  I loved FF 7&8, 9 was to kiddy for me and I loved 10.  And I haven't played a FF in game for so long.  I was positively drooling to play a new one, which accounts for my regrettable decision of buying a PS2 just for one game.

So the verdict...bleh.  What a letdown.  I don't know if FF magic has dulled on me, but the storyline for FF 12 was boring as hell.  I didn't care for any characters and thats saying something for a FF game.  What am I missing here?</quote>

Namely, 8-10.  I consider those the dark years of Final Fantasy (and I don't even consider 11 to be part of the series)

I thought 12's biggest flaw was the time it took to actually get into the game.  It was 4-5 hours before you get out in the world and another 3-4 until you actually had enough of the gambits to play around/customize with.

The ability board was the best system Final Fantasy has had so far.  It seemed to combine 7 and 10's system with great effect.

I found the characters to be more entertaining and less annoying than those of 10.  Vaan is less of a pansy than Tidus, Balthier and Fran made a good team (Fran still has the sexiest voice in Video Games to me).  What I liked most about the story, is it didn't focus on Vaan.  He was just sort of there most of the time, just witnessing the events while everyone else made the decisions.  I also found the War Between Empires to be a little refreshing than the typical Big Bad from the start, like FF 6.

Everyone has their own tastes though.  To my tastes, 12 was a better RPG than previous incarnations of Final Fantasy.
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