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Out of curiosity, did you ever play Morrowind? Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 11/02/2011 08:44:06 AM
Because it's somewhat notorious amongst WRPGs for having a blood-weepingly hard difficulty, as well as non-scaling enemies. Meaning you can grind to your hearts satisfaction and wreak absolute havoc on everything.

Also, you can kill everyone, if you want. The game tells you you've doomed the world and that now would be a good time to reload the game, and you can tell the game to go bugger off and that you wish to "persist in the doomed world that you have created," to put it in Bethesda's language. :P


Heck, let's talk points in general while we're at it. I guarantee you I could beat either of the Mass Effect games on the hardest difficulty without ever assigning a skill point, and without the game being much harder at all. I could do that in the majority of Western RPGs I can think of, actually, with varying degrees of trouble.


While I am sure it is possible to do so, I assure you that it would be much more difficult than you are proposing here. I speak from experience on this matter, having tried to use a sniper rifle with my Adept Shepard in ME1. Theoretically, I could defeat most jrpgs without leveling up, either; they're based on probability, so it's technically possible given an inane amount of time.

In ME2 you admittedly could probably do this with ease, but ME2 was not a very well-constructed game. :P


Also, I would like to point out that the issue I'm seeing with the conversation you two are having is that lord-of-shadow is a narrativist (roleplaying as being the character, telling a story), while you're very, very much a gamist (stats stats stats). I refer you to my link; if nothing else, it might shine some light on various perspectives of gaming.
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Is it silly of me to keep holding out hope that there will be a KotOR 3? Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2011 04:24:55 PM 936 Views
With The Old Republic, I wouldn't expect it. Zalis - 09/02/2011 05:49:20 PM 741 Views
Nope. Not any time soon, at least. lord-of-shadow - 09/02/2011 06:27:06 PM 815 Views
Thanks for that. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2011 06:40:23 PM 678 Views
I have no answers, but on the subject ... Darth_Katie - 09/02/2011 06:28:35 PM 749 Views
It is literally amazing. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2011 06:43:14 PM 699 Views
It's about as good as a western-style RPG has ever been. Also: best plot twist of all time. lord-of-shadow - 09/02/2011 07:12:59 PM 731 Views
But Katie, don't go looking up the plot twist before you decide to play it. Fox and Ravens - 09/02/2011 07:41:57 PM 740 Views
Thanks for the warning. Darth_Katie - 09/02/2011 08:50:17 PM 771 Views
Oh? What's the difference? Darth_Katie - 09/02/2011 08:51:33 PM 740 Views
Ok, I may have exaggerated a little bit... lord-of-shadow - 09/02/2011 09:36:21 PM 716 Views
Ah, I see. Thanks! *NM* Darth_Katie - 10/02/2011 01:50:50 PM 368 Views
Re: Ok, I may have exaggerated a little bit... Aemon - 10/02/2011 03:47:08 PM 703 Views
I LOL'd a bit. Zalis - 10/02/2011 04:08:12 PM 842 Views
Re: I LOL'd a bit. Aemon - 10/02/2011 09:46:22 PM 679 Views
Interesting viewpoint. lord-of-shadow - 10/02/2011 10:45:25 PM 810 Views
Yeah, I thought about most of your complaints while writing that post. Aemon - 11/02/2011 02:42:16 AM 752 Views
All fair enough. And I even agree with you. lord-of-shadow - 11/02/2011 04:24:21 AM 660 Views
Re: All fair enough. And I even agree with you. Aemon - 11/02/2011 08:27:04 AM 769 Views
Out of curiosity, did you ever play Morrowind? Ghavrel - 11/02/2011 08:44:06 AM 779 Views
I played roughly halfway through. I quit when I realized how broken that game was. Aemon - 11/02/2011 05:57:04 PM 727 Views
I love a good story but abhor collections/accomplishments/completionist stuff. Zalis - 11/02/2011 07:53:48 PM 698 Views
That they do. Aemon - 11/02/2011 10:50:02 PM 648 Views
Out of curiosity, what's you're opinion on the Neverwinter Nights games? *NM* Macharius - 11/02/2011 08:18:38 PM 372 Views
I've actually never played them. Aemon - 11/02/2011 10:46:11 PM 619 Views
That was always my impression as well. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 11/02/2011 11:46:32 PM 366 Views
That article is one of the most opaque pieces of text I've ever read. Dan - 12/02/2011 02:00:03 PM 783 Views
I seriously doubt that. Ghavrel - 12/02/2011 08:28:44 PM 657 Views
Shortly put, western RPGs are better. Bergioyn - 09/02/2011 10:15:42 PM 747 Views
I don't know..... AliasRY - 10/02/2011 08:19:28 PM 693 Views
Ok......... AliasRY - 10/02/2011 08:20:37 PM 707 Views
? *NM* Bergioyn - 10/02/2011 10:04:48 PM 369 Views
It's very good- highly recommend it beetnemesis - 09/02/2011 08:48:13 PM 667 Views
Recommended. Bergioyn - 09/02/2011 10:12:08 PM 702 Views
Agreed Sir Tybalt - 12/02/2011 12:29:30 AM 703 Views
Since you could probably get it for five dollars, worth trying. TaskmasterJack - 09/02/2011 10:44:17 PM 677 Views
Same. I've always found it sort of meh. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/02/2011 11:41:19 PM 354 Views
It has the same chance in hell as a sequel to the Chrono series *NM* Roland00 - 11/02/2011 02:32:41 AM 324 Views
now you made me sad, i'm going to go play chrono trigger on my psx now *NM* Apsalar Shadowdancer - 19/02/2011 04:21:04 AM 438 Views
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