WTF? what is wrong with people?! this makes me wanna pull my hair out! its 2009!!!!
Aisha Send a noteboard - 16/10/2009 04:19:49 AM
anyone wanna show this FOOL the statistics on divorce rates with same race couples?????? not much of a diff if any!!!!!!!! ugh this makes my blood boil..
NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.
Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.
"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."
If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.
"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.
Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.
Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.
Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She is white and he is black. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.
"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."
Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.
"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."
"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. She said the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 "that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."
The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."
"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.
According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.
Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.
The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.
"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."
Jesus Christ, what distorted logic. And here I thought it was 2009 and not 1959.
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.
Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.
"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."
If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.
"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.
Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.
Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.
Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She is white and he is black. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.
"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."
Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.
"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."
"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. She said the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 "that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."
The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."
"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.
According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.
Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.
The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.
"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."
Jesus Christ, what distorted logic. And here I thought it was 2009 and not 1959.
Aisha - formerly known as randschicka
This message last edited by Aisha on 16/10/2009 at 04:26:43 AM
Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.
16/10/2009 03:44:53 AM
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What? He seems like a pretty rational guy.
16/10/2009 04:08:36 AM
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Yeah, he DOES have black friends! He even treats them like everyone else! Lol.
16/10/2009 05:15:13 AM
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Yeah. They don't have to crap in the yard. He says they can use his bathroom. *NM*
16/10/2009 03:47:24 PM
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Hell, I have friends who won't let me do that. *NM*
16/10/2009 06:46:37 PM
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To get technical, he doesn't say he lets them... just that they do. *NM*
16/10/2009 07:11:29 PM
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to crap in this guy's lawn... it's a puzzler. *NM*
16/10/2009 08:57:06 PM
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WTF? what is wrong with people?! this makes me wanna pull my hair out! its 2009!!!!
16/10/2009 04:19:49 AM
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How are mixed race children treated in Louisiana? Here, nobody under the age of 60 could care less
16/10/2009 05:19:49 AM
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aren't Cajuns a mix of multiple races (whites and indians mostly)?? Cajuns ARE Loiusiana *NM*
16/10/2009 05:05:18 PM
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You're confusing Cajuns with Creoles.
17/10/2009 07:28:35 AM
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Some unions are opposed because they can't breed - but here the ability to breed is the problem!
16/10/2009 11:37:34 AM
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Wild guess: Civil rights act?
16/10/2009 03:04:58 PM
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Personal freedoms trump that. He was not outlawing or preventing it, just refusing to go along.
16/10/2009 03:34:22 PM
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In this case it might not make much of a difference, but you can't allow it as a general rule.
16/10/2009 03:39:52 PM
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Isn't JP a government position? In that case, his personal freedoms have nothing to do with it *NM*
16/10/2009 03:55:32 PM
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So the officials who obeyed the laws supporting race discrimination were doing good? *NM*
17/10/2009 04:26:13 PM
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the government should just get their fingers out of the marriage business
16/10/2009 05:14:02 PM
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*snorts*
19/10/2009 02:01:01 AM
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A judge is not a private citizen
16/10/2009 05:43:44 PM
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Is it really discrimination? He is not singling out any race, which is what discrimination means...
17/10/2009 04:37:11 PM
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Are you really saying that individuals cannot be discriminated against, only groups? *NM*
17/10/2009 04:46:33 PM
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Um, it seems to me he's discriminating against mixed-race children. *NM*
18/10/2009 03:44:34 AM
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He's singling out mixed-race couples
19/10/2009 04:59:17 AM
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Dear Lord, you really are one of the most special people I've ever known.
16/10/2009 09:40:16 PM
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Psh, everyone knows that mixed-race babies are the cutest, anyway
16/10/2009 05:51:03 PM
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Another argument in support of the judge - cute babies are jerks. Ugly babies are much friendlier
17/10/2009 04:25:20 PM
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Why can't they just go to another JotP? Why MUST this guy cave in?
22/10/2009 11:26:32 PM
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Um. 'Cuz what he's doing is illegal?
22/10/2009 11:28:10 PM
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lol Judging from your response, I take it you didn't even fully read my response title!
23/10/2009 07:51:48 PM
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