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I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster Send a noteboard - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM

Since I have no reason to question or doubt your initial claim to desire nothing more than honest debate without rancor, let's view my reply as constructive criticism to help you better achieve your stated goal.

"Indulge" was such a choice. According to Merriam-Webster, indulge implies excessive compliance and weakness in gratifying another's or one's own desires. Making use of that word is obviously editorial in nature. Concede would have been a more neutral choice, had you wished to be so.

"with other mental health issues we step in and stop their behavior for their own good"

Really? How so? Force-fed medication? Let me clue you in on something. Very few adults receive involuntary commitment for mental health issues. Treatment plans are voluntary in all but the most dangerous cases.

"and we do not play along"
Another good one. Supporting the wishes of the transgender person is "playing along." Honest debate without rancor?

Here's a big one. "Interfere." So let me get this straight. When I of my own free will sought treatment for my lifelong depression, and again of my own free will accepted the medication the doctor prescribed, he was "interfering" with my mental health issue? My late wife's treatment for bipolar disorder was also interference? Perhaps intervene would have been a better choice? Ah but only if you didn't want your slant to show.

Lastly equating doing what makes you happy over the course of your life with a hedonistic pursuit of immediate happiness is a poor argument at best and disingenuous at worst.

Mook

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Self-Identification vs. Mental Health Issue *trigger warning* Jeordam - 06/03/2017 08:53:17 PM 789 Views
I have to say I'm very confused about what your question is... and I don't think it's just me. Legolas - 07/03/2017 12:04:27 AM 519 Views
Yes, I'm talking about... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:03:18 PM 524 Views
Okay, clear. Legolas - 07/03/2017 06:50:00 PM 529 Views
<3 *NM* nossy - 07/03/2017 06:57:23 PM 242 Views
Mind over Matter? Jeordam - 07/03/2017 09:06:53 PM 501 Views
Mind over body might've been more apt. I believe I did answer your question actually. Legolas - 07/03/2017 10:41:01 PM 578 Views
Let's be clear.... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 11:17:02 PM 481 Views
By all means. Legolas - 07/03/2017 11:58:41 PM 496 Views
Well that's the crux of the topic isn't it.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 05:48:50 PM 426 Views
That takes us right back to body vs mind, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2017 07:13:32 PM 476 Views
Well that would be the difference... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 08:54:59 PM 528 Views
So do tell me what in fact the purpose of our discussion is, then? Legolas - 08/03/2017 09:40:09 PM 478 Views
What can I possibly say? Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:45:54 PM 465 Views
There's a distinction to be made with eating disorders. Ghavrel - 08/03/2017 08:31:08 PM 477 Views
That brings us all the way back around.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 09:05:40 PM 519 Views
Because nossy - 08/03/2017 09:30:37 PM 506 Views
Two things... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:50:32 PM 461 Views
you're missing a rather obvious difference, aren't you? damookster - 08/03/2017 09:50:09 PM 492 Views
Yeah, Snoop was just saying the same. nossy - 08/03/2017 10:14:41 PM 534 Views
Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 07:12:26 PM 511 Views
Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 592 Views
So two conversations now..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:39:55 PM 491 Views
Re: So two conversations now..... nossy - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM 472 Views
And this is what you're overlooking.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 10:47:47 PM 509 Views
I could be wrong nossy - 09/03/2017 11:15:22 PM 478 Views
Sex vs Gender Jeordam - 09/03/2017 11:33:54 PM 498 Views
So this is an interesting point..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:56:12 PM 496 Views
Sure about that? damookster - 09/03/2017 08:53:14 PM 467 Views
It's a mater of persepctive.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:12:09 PM 494 Views
wrong damookster - 09/03/2017 09:41:53 PM 422 Views
Sure. Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:57:48 PM 517 Views
sure, could be damookster - 09/03/2017 11:56:31 PM 447 Views
I feel like this has been said several times already, in several ways Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 04:10:27 PM 481 Views
It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM 486 Views
Re: It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 07:58:57 PM 490 Views
I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM 504 Views
I appolozie if I offended Jeordam - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM 482 Views
no worries damookster - 08/03/2017 06:36:10 PM 498 Views
It always goes from it doesn't hurt anyone to the whole world has to change accommodate me *NM* random thoughts - 10/03/2017 02:46:38 AM 291 Views
That's true - doesn't change the issue as such but certainly there's intolerance on that side too. *NM* Legolas - 10/03/2017 07:45:43 AM 232 Views
Both extremes are dangerous random thoughts - 10/03/2017 12:59:41 PM 527 Views
Take your trigger warnings back to tumblr where they belong ßelals Girl - 07/03/2017 12:21:05 PM 603 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:04:10 PM 514 Views
I self-identify as a deity, so I need you to use My preferred pronouns in reference to Myself Cannoli - 07/03/2017 05:15:56 PM 441 Views
So I could self-identify aerocontrols - 08/03/2017 12:36:39 AM 428 Views
I read through this thread. kazetaran - 10/03/2017 12:44:03 AM 643 Views
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