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Re: you can Stephen Send a noteboard - 20/11/2012 05:11:04 PM
Andy Murray is not really British. Seeing as he's a Scot, and not Welsh, Cornish or a Breton, he does not come from one of the Brythonic/Brittonic Celtic groups therefore he's not a Briton but actually a Gael.

but I'm not sure his ethnic descent is relevant to a conversation about his nationality. In the spirit of pendatry, I feel I should point out you are making a supposition that has very little to support it - being born and raised in Scotland doesn't prove his ethnic background.


True, though his surname Murray does indicate Gaelic heritage through the Medieval Muireb.
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I didn't say uncomfortable, I said funny. Legolas - 20/11/2012 08:19:32 PM 596 Views
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If you can call it credit *NM* Elaine - 20/11/2012 04:42:10 PM 400 Views
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Well, yes. But the reason I put this up... LordPerrin - 19/11/2012 09:43:53 PM 611 Views
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Well, that is more reasonable then. Joel - 20/11/2012 08:07:18 PM 679 Views
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As a United Statesian, that bothers me a bit as well. Joel - 24/11/2012 01:45:54 PM 660 Views
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I can be brief or strictly accurate: Which do you prefer...? Joel - 24/11/2012 01:25:27 PM 596 Views
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