Political power that comes out of the barrel of a gun precludes democracy.
Joel Send a noteboard - 05/09/2012 09:01:40 PM
When their government is decided by votes instead of bullets we can call it a democracy.
Say huh? It was not a lost cause ten freakin' years ago when we went in there, and had we concentrated our resources there instead of in a pointless and unjustified Iraq invasion Afghanistan might have been salvaged. Regardless, are you trying to say Bushs invasion of the country that actually DID assist bin Laden destroying the WTC (one of the few things Bush did right) is somehow "the Democrats fault"? I am sure Dems would like credit for that punitive war removing a proven threat to the US, but I am afraid they are not eligible beyond assenting to the invasion Bush ordered.
EDIT: It must also not be forgotten that Bushs preoccupation with Iraq left our forces in Afghanistan undermanned and underequipped, allowing both bin Laden and most of his supporters to escape over the border to Pakistan. It was left for Obama to kill bin Laden, and we are fighting Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Pakistan now, solely because Bush allowed them to escape justice due to his pathological but misguided obsession with a Saddam who was no threat to any American.
But yeah Afghanistan is a lost cause, something Obama and so many on the left should have known when they were saying Bush should be concentrating there instead of in Iraq.
Say huh? It was not a lost cause ten freakin' years ago when we went in there, and had we concentrated our resources there instead of in a pointless and unjustified Iraq invasion Afghanistan might have been salvaged. Regardless, are you trying to say Bushs invasion of the country that actually DID assist bin Laden destroying the WTC (one of the few things Bush did right) is somehow "the Democrats fault"? I am sure Dems would like credit for that punitive war removing a proven threat to the US, but I am afraid they are not eligible beyond assenting to the invasion Bush ordered.
EDIT: It must also not be forgotten that Bushs preoccupation with Iraq left our forces in Afghanistan undermanned and underequipped, allowing both bin Laden and most of his supporters to escape over the border to Pakistan. It was left for Obama to kill bin Laden, and we are fighting Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Pakistan now, solely because Bush allowed them to escape justice due to his pathological but misguided obsession with a Saddam who was no threat to any American.
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This message last edited by Joel on 05/09/2012 at 09:51:04 PM
Biden claims Romney wants war with Syria and Iran.
02/09/2012 10:48:24 PM
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Meh. Sounds like a non-story. But my thoughts, for what they're worth.
02/09/2012 11:05:52 PM
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Biden should be busy preparing to debate Ryan so he is not shredded, instead of saying stupid things
02/09/2012 11:52:35 PM
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We should introduce a new military doctrine
03/09/2012 02:46:33 AM
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I still think the post-war Axis powers the best model, but that requires equivalent manpower.
03/09/2012 03:57:12 AM
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It's a terrible model.
03/09/2012 11:42:36 PM
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Re: It's a terrible model.
04/09/2012 04:09:21 AM
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I recently read Stephen Ambrose's Band of Brothers, about a regiment from the 101st in WW2.
04/09/2012 10:29:01 PM
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wars they didn't start themselves? how do you figure that?
04/09/2012 10:45:07 PM
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We cannot hold all Afghanistan/Iraq accountable for governments against which they were powerless.
04/09/2012 11:54:46 PM
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so what? Governments habe always been who goes to war
05/09/2012 02:55:25 AM
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True, but we cannot hold people responsible for actions of their undemocratic governments.
05/09/2012 03:19:20 AM
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well thanks to the US they now have democratcily elected governments and can be held accountable *NM*
05/09/2012 02:30:41 PM
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Democratically elected? We will be propping it up with the US Army for at least two more years.
05/09/2012 07:19:21 PM
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being propped up by the US military doesn't make it not a democracy
05/09/2012 07:29:42 PM
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Political power that comes out of the barrel of a gun precludes democracy.
05/09/2012 09:01:40 PM
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it was always a lost cost and all governments are backed up by the barrel of a gun
05/09/2012 09:49:51 PM
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No more so than Iraq, but at least there was a threat to America to fight in Afghanistan.
23/09/2012 04:51:14 AM
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I said start. I quite agree with you about the things that went on after the wars themselves ended.
05/09/2012 08:51:58 PM
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shooting at our aircraft is none hostile?
05/09/2012 10:06:07 PM
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It is very difficult to reconcile this post with Toms.
04/09/2012 11:50:06 PM
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Hey, remember when Bush invaded Iraq? For no reason at all, it turned out?
03/09/2012 01:56:49 AM
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Realistically, I don't think Romney would do MUCH different. But that little bit...
03/09/2012 02:19:14 AM
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After all the moeny he took from Sheldon Adelson he HAS to attack Iran. Adelson will foot the bill. *NM*
03/09/2012 05:19:27 AM
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I don't think Romney is that interested in starting a war with anyone
04/09/2012 02:39:14 PM
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