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Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation Isaac Send a noteboard - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM
Or perhaps I should ask, what kind of definition of "spree killing" are you using that gets you that low a number for the US since 1982?

prior version list of spree killings

Some folks have been revising that like crazy the last few days, I just spent like twenty minutes trying to find the page again thinking I had the wrong ones until I did 'view history' and picked the version from when I wrote that. Christ was that aggravating. I was busy writing a cop-out about being unable to find it when I thought about revisions. Anyway I make no claims to its accuracy or anything else, I found it, pasted it into excel, sorted it by year and clipped off all stuff before I was born, removed all that weren't from the US or general EU, and counted.

I'd also welcome more complete lists, while trying to find it again through google-fu I noticed that the web is essentially clogged with various crap making an effective search for serious treatments impractical. Let me know if you find better.
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Do you have strong feelings/opinions about gun control? wooly - 25/07/2012 05:48:56 AM 1329 Views
Kind of? nossy - 25/07/2012 05:59:39 AM 773 Views
Agreed wooly - 25/07/2012 06:20:44 AM 618 Views
Re: Agreed nossy - 25/07/2012 06:29:16 AM 759 Views
A lot of people are uncomfortable about homsexuality. Let's ban that too. Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:26:46 PM 746 Views
Feisty. nossy - 25/07/2012 09:54:31 PM 849 Views
I'm pro-guns, but I don't think I have strong feelings about anything A Deathwatch Guard - 25/07/2012 07:36:31 AM 688 Views
I am mostly in agreement with you. wooly - 26/07/2012 02:11:56 AM 562 Views
Fully automatic weapons are already forbidden, aren't they? A Deathwatch Guard - 27/07/2012 02:19:57 AM 682 Views
Pretty strong (as someone born, raised and living outside the US) snoopcester - 25/07/2012 11:23:52 AM 760 Views
I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. Stephen - 25/07/2012 11:41:13 AM 818 Views
Re: I'm okay with guns in very limited circumstances. snoopcester - 25/07/2012 01:21:36 PM 698 Views
Inevitable thread, but mostly I feel people enters this debate without knowing enough about guns Isaac - 25/07/2012 02:05:12 PM 896 Views
I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 02:47:05 PM 796 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:00:07 PM 697 Views
Re: moondog - 25/07/2012 03:30:44 PM 744 Views
Okay, that makes no sense Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:32:28 PM 748 Views
Re: Re: Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:50:23 PM 771 Views
My dad's gun were stolen and the police said they didn't need to even take fingerprints random thoughts - 25/07/2012 06:58:36 PM 759 Views
Re: I have to admit that I didn't read most of that, sorry. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:48:46 PM 795 Views
I understand, but you probably should if time permits Isaac - 25/07/2012 03:49:49 PM 903 Views
It is unlikely to, for a while. nossy - 25/07/2012 10:37:30 PM 784 Views
Oh, but you have time to read Cannoli though Isaac - 26/07/2012 01:10:50 AM 721 Views
... his was shorter? nossy - 26/07/2012 02:41:48 PM 637 Views
Yeah but mine had diagrams! Isaac - 26/07/2012 03:46:49 PM 720 Views
I do sometimes need pictures. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:55:17 PM 584 Views
Re: I do sometimes need pictures. Isaac - 26/07/2012 04:57:57 PM 717 Views
*NM* nossy - 26/07/2012 05:23:11 PM 362 Views
Where exactly did you get those numbers? Legolas - 27/07/2012 07:23:31 PM 734 Views
He's right as far as numbers go. Nate - 27/07/2012 08:08:02 PM 776 Views
Wikipedia, the unchallenged source for acurate and complete citation Isaac - 27/07/2012 08:19:40 PM 800 Views
Sorry, I totally forgot about this post, hadn't noticed your replies. Legolas - 31/07/2012 07:42:43 PM 710 Views
I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 08:18:04 PM 691 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Legolas - 31/07/2012 09:14:34 PM 671 Views
Re: I'm not surprised there were missing incidents Isaac - 31/07/2012 11:56:05 PM 831 Views
Norway? Scotland? Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:31:49 PM 682 Views
You can keep this up nossy - 25/07/2012 09:56:28 PM 660 Views
Hi, Cannoli. Nate - 25/07/2012 10:30:56 PM 692 Views
well it could have at least double posted the edited version random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:32 PM 636 Views
Most of those numbers come from inner city violence random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:40:34 PM 845 Views
Re: Hi, Cannoli. Cannoli - 09/08/2012 09:07:03 PM 744 Views
The UK tightened gun laws after the Dunblane massacre. Rebekah - 25/07/2012 10:58:08 PM 617 Views
And yet, the people who do these things tend to be more respectful of guns Tom - 25/07/2012 03:44:31 PM 685 Views
Well working with dangeorus items tends to lead to respect and caution or a Darwin Award Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:52:13 PM 731 Views
I have no problem with guns, but I agree that assault weapons shouldn't be legal for ordinary people Tom - 25/07/2012 02:56:38 PM 743 Views
Re: guns Macharius - 25/07/2012 03:07:30 PM 792 Views
what is the basis for your argument that people would have panicked and forgotten their guns? random thoughts - 25/07/2012 04:45:46 PM 644 Views
My basis is that people are people - subject to panic, confusion, and fear. *NM* Macharius - 25/07/2012 05:46:58 PM 418 Views
Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience Isaac - 25/07/2012 06:14:57 PM 692 Views
Re: Most people who regularly carry weapons reach for them when spooked, in my experience ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:45:02 PM 801 Views
Putting your hand on something is a little different then shooting someone Isaac - 25/07/2012 08:13:59 PM 656 Views
The problem with banning assualt weapons is the defention is mostly cosmetic random thoughts - 25/07/2012 05:29:35 PM 651 Views
Bullshit Roland00 - 26/07/2012 01:52:59 PM 793 Views
I call Bullshit on your Bullshit random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:59:09 PM 704 Views
Or nossy - 26/07/2012 03:20:12 PM 621 Views
There a lot of us with military training and some were in that theater random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:43:52 PM 620 Views
HE was talking about normal people. nossy - 26/07/2012 04:53:16 PM 730 Views
I think we are talking past each other random thoughts - 26/07/2012 05:55:48 PM 690 Views
Possibly. We do do that. nossy - 26/07/2012 06:52:58 PM 723 Views
In addition to random thoughts's points... Tom - 26/07/2012 03:10:56 PM 637 Views
You're partially right but mostly wrong Isaac - 26/07/2012 05:46:27 PM 709 Views
i have pretty strong feelings that they should be better regulated than they currently are moondog - 25/07/2012 03:18:10 PM 635 Views
Correct me if I'm wrong.... Jeordam - 25/07/2012 03:53:07 PM 862 Views
You're wrong Isaac - 25/07/2012 04:37:22 PM 643 Views
I believe it was the ammunition he bought in large amounts online, not the guns themselves. Legolas - 25/07/2012 07:22:31 PM 666 Views
Yes. Palatine - 25/07/2012 05:09:36 PM 644 Views
Yes and I am glad it's not my problem. ironclad - 25/07/2012 06:41:56 PM 773 Views
Well, you're missing the flaw in your reasoning...probably because you're appallingly ignorant Cannoli - 25/07/2012 09:19:18 PM 848 Views
Come back when you can discuss something without attacking someone. ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:58:47 AM 669 Views
Dude, your burglary argument makes no sense Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:09:37 PM 694 Views
It makes lots of sense, actually. Legolas - 25/07/2012 11:55:59 PM 674 Views
They don't bring guns here. Huh. *NM* ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:59:15 AM 335 Views
they don't typically bring guns here either random thoughts - 26/07/2012 02:01:14 AM 764 Views
That's how I understand it too but I'm dubious, many criminals are dumber than a bag of hammers Isaac - 26/07/2012 02:22:18 AM 653 Views
Ha! ironclad - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 PM 542 Views
One of my Marine friends became a Fort Worth cop when he got out random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:11:12 PM 742 Views
You get some wild stories Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:09:52 PM 745 Views
Like I've always said, you can't un-invent the gun Dark Knight - 25/07/2012 11:05:22 PM 644 Views
Agreed. It's really a lot like health care, in a way. Legolas - 26/07/2012 12:07:20 AM 754 Views
the argument of if America should have a lot guns is a long over random thoughts - 26/07/2012 03:29:50 PM 601 Views
See, there's another one of those BS stats tricks, 'family members' includes suicides and murder Isaac - 26/07/2012 06:47:54 PM 635 Views
Sure, but you can legislate certain excessive firearms. Ghavrel - 26/07/2012 09:41:12 PM 722 Views
assault rifles are banned random thoughts - 26/07/2012 10:51:28 PM 677 Views
I know the distinction. That's why I want a more clearly defined term for "assault weapon." Ghavrel - 27/07/2012 09:46:11 AM 806 Views
Then stay away from the hyperbole because an Uzi is a sub machinegun so it is banned random thoughts - 27/07/2012 01:48:50 PM 659 Views
Touchy Jedi Wolf Sister - 28/07/2012 04:33:46 AM 854 Views
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