My 9-month-old daughter has no idea if she does something that we consider to be "wrong" and she's FAR too young to be yelled at or spanked.
The study organizer said the following:
The best use of spanking, Larzelere said, is in children between the ages of 2 and 6 when milder discipline tactics, such as time out, fail.
In other words, the study basically concluded that (1) you shouldn't immediately spank as a punishment, (2) you should only spank older children who can appreciate the connection between the behavior and the punishment and (3) you don't EVER demean a child verbally - criticize actions and behaviors, not people or their intrinsic qualities.
Either that, or the study got it all wrong - maybe the kids are spanked more BECAUSE they're stupid.
The study organizer said the following:
The best use of spanking, Larzelere said, is in children between the ages of 2 and 6 when milder discipline tactics, such as time out, fail.
In other words, the study basically concluded that (1) you shouldn't immediately spank as a punishment, (2) you should only spank older children who can appreciate the connection between the behavior and the punishment and (3) you don't EVER demean a child verbally - criticize actions and behaviors, not people or their intrinsic qualities.
Either that, or the study got it all wrong - maybe the kids are spanked more BECAUSE they're stupid.
Especially on point three, but that seems to be a VERY subtle nuance many, if not most, people don't recognize. Hence we can't say cannibalism, bestiality, genocide etc. etc. are inherently "wrong" because we can't make value judgments about PEOPLE; that would be... er... wrong....
Of course, stating it's wrong to go into a supermarket and start gunning down people at random for fun doesn't make any value judgment on a person, only the action, which I'd hope we can all agree is indefensible. Likewise, the possibility someone might do that or something similar due to the effects of current or past trauma in their lives may be relevant to the severity of the penalty, but doesn't mitigate the results of the behavior and thus fails to make it any more acceptable.
Yes, I realize a lot of that seems like it should be patently obvious; what bothers me (a lot) is that it evidently often isn't.
To return to topic, the article isn't all bad, but where it succeeds, I think, is where it applies common sense becoming conventional wisdom. Spanking shouldn't be the first response in most cases, at least IMHO, or it could very easily create the impression that every problem should be first addressed with force. It shouldn't be used when the child is unable to connect the spanking with the consequences of their actions, or it's just abuse that could, if frequent enough, produce traumatic scarring. Indeed, it seems most effective when it is a last resort; Star Trek quotes aside there are regrettably times when violence can only be countered with violence, but to reduce the need as much as possible it is paramount to ensure violence is only accepted when all other options have failed.
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Apparently spanking makes children stupid.
26/09/2009 12:25:34 PM
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Negative memories aren't all bad. Parents just need to be consistent, yet loving. *NM*
26/09/2009 02:06:07 PM
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I do believe this study was created to prove the point, not test it.
26/09/2009 03:25:54 PM
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What are your grounds for that belief?
26/09/2009 04:11:37 PM
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Duke University is one of the best universities in the United States
26/09/2009 05:11:21 PM
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You are apparently pretty ignorant about psychology if you think it is pseudo-science.
27/09/2009 01:09:02 AM
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Bah. It's not falsifiable.
27/09/2009 01:09:37 PM
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Karl Popper had a turquoise willy. Falsify THAT with your CERNomatic juiceharp, Galileo. *NM*
27/09/2009 03:05:44 PM
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That's not what the study says. It says don't spank VERY young children
26/09/2009 05:16:33 PM
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Larzelere is not the study organizer, though, but someone critical of it.
26/09/2009 07:04:52 PM
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Did I miss something or did I just forget?
27/09/2009 12:54:13 AM
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Agreed.
28/09/2009 12:06:29 AM
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It certainly can make them kinky. *NM*
28/09/2009 07:19:34 PM
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