Um, a LOT of places have mixed "free" market and state rule.
Joel Send a noteboard - 10/10/2011 05:43:49 AM
Do you think that the ideals of democracy have a place in a free market economy?
--- Yes, democracy and free market go hand-in-hand. Only China has mixed free market and state-rule and only to pacify the public which was starting to revolt over the government's repression, i.e., T-Square.
Do the ideals of democracy more accurately represent communism?
--- No, democracy and communism are incompatible.
Can a true democratic political system and a true free market economy coexist?
--- "True" free market doesn't exist and never will. However, the principles of free market economies is much more safe and possible in a democracy.
--- Yes, democracy and free market go hand-in-hand. Only China has mixed free market and state-rule and only to pacify the public which was starting to revolt over the government's repression, i.e., T-Square.
Do the ideals of democracy more accurately represent communism?
--- No, democracy and communism are incompatible.
Can a true democratic political system and a true free market economy coexist?
--- "True" free market doesn't exist and never will. However, the principles of free market economies is much more safe and possible in a democracy.
America, for example; Mexico, Canada, pretty much all of Western Europe, I believe (but am not sure) Japan, etc. etc. As you said, a truly free market cannot exist, so when any democratic (i.e. non-fascist) state retains private enterprise, guess where you are (hint: It starts with "s" and ends with "ocialism.")
I also believe you will find that the "Red" Chinese government did not exactly "pacify" the public in response to Tianenmen (except in the traditional way Chinese autocrats "pacify" the public: "Tell it to the gulag guards, traitor....") In terms of government, the main impacts Tiananmen had were:
1) Many idealistic young political reformers who had moved up in government over the past decade were discredited at best and imprisoned at worst and
2) Many hardliners (such as the mayor of Beijing) saw their rank in the national party skyrocket as a reward for brutalizing protesters.
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Is communism the true economy of democracies?
10/10/2011 01:35:24 AM
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Sorry, not following this.....
10/10/2011 03:33:11 AM
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Um, a LOT of places have mixed "free" market and state rule.
10/10/2011 05:43:49 AM
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WTF? Canada, Western Europe, and Japan are democracies, not state-rule like China - *NM*
10/10/2011 05:53:17 PM
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They are not similar.
10/10/2011 04:01:59 AM
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That's why Lenin came up with the soviets, though that was pretty naïve, too.
10/10/2011 05:54:37 AM
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Lenin died in 1924. The Civil War was over in 1920. He died after several strokes. *NM*
10/10/2011 05:30:58 PM
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Sorry, did not realize he survived it that long.
11/10/2011 04:21:05 AM
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There is no evidence that Lenin was poisoned.
11/10/2011 04:50:28 AM
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That is hardly the only way to kill; in Lenins condition, neglect would have sufficed.
11/10/2011 06:28:31 AM
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Let's see...you're asking if property theft by the state is compatible with freedom? No.
10/10/2011 04:58:14 AM
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I'm curious how you distinguish "full socialism" from "full communism."
10/10/2011 05:32:53 AM
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You obviously don't understand the definitions of socialism and communism.
10/10/2011 02:41:39 PM
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In theory, but economics is not politics, making social contracts a bit more dubious.
10/10/2011 05:18:39 AM
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No. A thousand times no.
10/10/2011 07:46:22 AM
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Guess I count myself among those fools, though I pretty much agree with Danny.
10/10/2011 10:52:11 AM
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I don't usually answer your scattershot rants, Joel, but you have overextended yourself.
10/10/2011 05:28:07 PM
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That still looks like Stalin and Mao rationalizing away the impossibility of their stated goals.
11/10/2011 05:59:06 AM
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No time to today, but you're very wrong.
11/10/2011 02:32:38 PM
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OK.
11/10/2011 03:08:17 PM
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Nope, because free-market democracy totally permits communism already
12/10/2011 12:50:36 AM
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