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Um, a LOT of places have mixed "free" market and state rule. Joel Send a noteboard - 10/10/2011 05:43:49 AM
Do you think that the ideals of democracy have a place in a free market economy?

--- Yes, democracy and free market go hand-in-hand. Only China has mixed free market and state-rule and only to pacify the public which was starting to revolt over the government's repression, i.e., T-Square.

Do the ideals of democracy more accurately represent communism?

--- No, democracy and communism are incompatible.

Can a true democratic political system and a true free market economy coexist?

--- "True" free market doesn't exist and never will. However, the principles of free market economies is much more safe and possible in a democracy.

America, for example; Mexico, Canada, pretty much all of Western Europe, I believe (but am not sure) Japan, etc. etc. As you said, a truly free market cannot exist, so when any democratic (i.e. non-fascist) state retains private enterprise, guess where you are (hint: It starts with "s" and ends with "ocialism.")

I also believe you will find that the "Red" Chinese government did not exactly "pacify" the public in response to Tianenmen (except in the traditional way Chinese autocrats "pacify" the public: "Tell it to the gulag guards, traitor....") In terms of government, the main impacts Tiananmen had were:

1) Many idealistic young political reformers who had moved up in government over the past decade were discredited at best and imprisoned at worst and

2) Many hardliners (such as the mayor of Beijing) saw their rank in the national party skyrocket as a reward for brutalizing protesters.
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Is communism the true economy of democracies? - 10/10/2011 01:35:24 AM 775 Views
Sorry, not following this..... - 10/10/2011 03:33:11 AM 596 Views
Re: Sorry, not following this..... - 10/10/2011 03:54:45 AM 510 Views
Um, a LOT of places have mixed "free" market and state rule. - 10/10/2011 05:43:49 AM 618 Views
WTF? Canada, Western Europe, and Japan are democracies, not state-rule like China - *NM* - 10/10/2011 05:53:17 PM 227 Views
Think he means we all have public sector enterprise. - 10/10/2011 06:24:10 PM 445 Views
Yeah, I thought it was clear as well. - 10/10/2011 06:32:02 PM 482 Views
Yeah, Stephen pretty much covered it. - 11/10/2011 06:10:38 AM 523 Views
They are not similar. - 10/10/2011 04:01:59 AM 468 Views
Re: They are not similar. - 10/10/2011 04:47:26 AM 546 Views
No, but socialism is. - 10/10/2011 06:09:55 AM 521 Views
No. A thousand times no. - 10/10/2011 07:46:22 AM 604 Views
Guess I count myself among those fools, though I pretty much agree with Danny. - 10/10/2011 10:52:11 AM 509 Views
I don't usually answer your scattershot rants, Joel, but you have overextended yourself. - 10/10/2011 05:28:07 PM 547 Views
That still looks like Stalin and Mao rationalizing away the impossibility of their stated goals. - 11/10/2011 05:59:06 AM 562 Views
No time to today, but you're very wrong. - 11/10/2011 02:32:38 PM 444 Views
OK. - 11/10/2011 03:08:17 PM 432 Views
You really should read more about the Soviet Union. - 11/10/2011 03:19:32 PM 512 Views
Not sure it would change my perceptions. - 11/10/2011 03:41:08 PM 417 Views
In a single word: No. - 11/10/2011 08:26:36 AM 438 Views

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