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"...the government mandate to have health insurance was unlike any law in American history"... Joel Send a noteboard - 09/06/2011 05:24:56 AM
except, of course, for the government mandate to have social security that's been around 80 years; good luck opting out of that: Unless you're unemployed you pay it or break federal law, and may even get to pay taxes ON SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS! It was always your money set aside for your retirement, but if you set aside too much you may have to pay some of it as taxes AGAIN. BTW, is it only FEDERAL mandates to buy health insurance that are unconstitutional? The feds preventing STATE mandates to buy health insurance would seem, at the level of the federal Constiution, like unduly interfering with states rights, so if the SCOTUS DOES rule Obamacare unconstitutional it will inevitably return as 49 versions of Romneycare (MA doesn't need one, since they have the original. ;)) Presumably that's why you were so thumbs up about the prospect of Romney replacing Obama the other day? Or is it the candidate rather than the plan that so outrages you...? :rolleyes:
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keep in mind it is a legal argument - 09/06/2011 01:50:05 PM 348 Views
It's incredibly different. - 09/06/2011 03:03:07 AM 399 Views
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"...the government mandate to have health insurance was unlike any law in American history"... - 09/06/2011 05:24:56 AM 374 Views
wait.... - 09/06/2011 04:34:13 PM 421 Views
+1 - apples and oranges here..... *NM* - 09/06/2011 05:38:40 PM 143 Views
Re: wait.... - 10/06/2011 02:36:33 AM 357 Views
if you want to opt out just work for a local government - 09/06/2011 06:01:06 PM 357 Views
Local government employees don't pay FICA? Where? - 10/06/2011 12:03:49 AM 361 Views
Actually, there's an even more relevant example. - 09/06/2011 08:01:18 PM 482 Views
That's a very flawed example - 09/06/2011 09:06:24 PM 366 Views
Excellent response.....you hit the nail on the head..... *NM* - 09/06/2011 09:12:06 PM 160 Views

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