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It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM
We have more context for the global warming guy than Rush. Now to be fair Rush is very likely putting the very worst spin he can come up with on this guys words. You two are kind of reverse polarity Twinkies in that regard. But I would like to know what "signs" the guy is talking about and the way he worded it does seem to imply that Mother Nature (notice the caps) was somehow involved.

He stated the signs he was talking about so you don't have to guess. Maybe I'm being too verbose and hard to follow again; snoop makes exactly the same point in response to Isaac, but as usual does it far more concisely. The other PARAGRAPHS in the mans statement clarify the single SENTENCE that would otherwise be so ambiguous as to be meaningless. Limbaughs comments are unambiguous; do you have or just really want to believe in a statement by him that changes that? Note that I'm not begging the question, because I'm referring to something we all know he said clearly.
Of course we could have just waited to have this whole discussion until someone blamed gays. I am really shocked that it hasn't happened yet.

Give Pat Robertson time. ;) Just don't complain around the Tea Party if he blames gays, or you might be shocked to learn you're a Muslim/terrorist. :rolleyes:
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? Camilla - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 838 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president Isaac - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 732 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. Joel - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 533 Views
Actually people have Isaac - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 679 Views
Which people? Where? Example? Joel - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 699 Views
Tsunami and climate change Knightscape - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 681 Views
"Speakers were careful to point out that many findings still amounted only to hypotheses" Joel - 18/03/2011 01:31:44 PM 671 Views
Re: No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. dart_board - 18/03/2011 12:25:01 PM 700 Views
Republican spin doctor Frank Luntz popularized "climate change" to make global warming appealing. Joel - 18/03/2011 01:56:01 PM 581 Views
A slightly misleading post snoopcester - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 616 Views
Surprised? *NM* Camilla - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 259 Views
Not completely. *NM* snoopcester - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 233 Views
Kind of missed the point there Isaac - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 619 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. Joel - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 491 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 631 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... Joel - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 653 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 482 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 587 Views
Re: Fair enough. Isaac - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 560 Views
No worries. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 821 Views
I've read the transcript snoopcester - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 642 Views
Re: I've read the transcript Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 557 Views
You need to reread what I said snoopcester - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 520 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 598 Views
Perhaps snoopcester - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 659 Views
Okay, I'm done Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 555 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point Helene - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 538 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". Joel - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 547 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 525 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). Joel - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 565 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means Joel - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 639 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush random thoughts - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 584 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. Joel - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 513 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it random thoughts - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 618 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. Joel - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 579 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard random thoughts - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 525 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. Joel - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 646 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be random thoughts - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 538 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright Joel - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 696 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done random thoughts - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 583 Views
Hey, guys! Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 505 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* random thoughts - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 222 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. Joel - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 661 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters random thoughts - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 544 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 552 Views
no it shows that the one statements was not meant to be taken literally random thoughts - 17/03/2011 02:47:55 AM 576 Views
At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence. Joel - 18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM 653 Views
so you finally agre that the context changes the meaning, took you long enough random thoughts - 18/03/2011 02:33:41 PM 531 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard Camilla - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 669 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* random thoughts - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 225 Views
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