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it is not a wake up call to anything but left wing hestrics if their is no connection random thoughts Send a noteboard - 11/01/2011 06:29:47 PM
Sorry but if you are going to claim there is a connection you have to show some dotted lines and not just assume it the absence if not out right defiance of the facts.

Sorry but they left does not get use this incident as wake up call to push their political agenda simply because they falsely claimed something. Keep in mind what they are asking for is the other side be silenced since they all believe that bad air all comes from the right. They want to stop people from criticizing the government. They want to make anti-illegal immigrant comments considered hate speech.

If this was about changing the tone I would agree but all you have to do is look at the hysterics used argue the case to know who they think needs to shut up and play nice. As the orignal article pointed out this is not innocent debate.
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The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel LiterateDog - 10/01/2011 04:02:29 AM 1512 Views
The people politicizing this are idiots. everynametaken - 10/01/2011 04:44:37 AM 776 Views
Can't argue with that. Joel - 10/01/2011 08:05:32 AM 747 Views
Nothing to argue with there. *NM* Tashmere - 10/01/2011 05:04:49 AM 285 Views
I do agree it's not her fault; she is a non-entity. nossy - 10/01/2011 12:38:24 PM 714 Views
I agree. *NM* Avendesora - 10/01/2011 03:41:30 PM 452 Views
The NYT and liberal media have created a climate of stupidity random thoughts - 10/01/2011 05:47:29 PM 809 Views
Pot, Kettle. I think you two should discuss your color. Dannymac - 10/01/2011 09:26:05 PM 820 Views
nice try but no random thoughts - 10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM 734 Views
Close your eyes and fill your ears all you want... Dannymac - 10/01/2011 10:51:45 PM 714 Views
that is hoot coming from the chicken little party random thoughts - 11/01/2011 02:17:37 PM 729 Views
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...." Joel - 10/01/2011 11:53:10 PM 987 Views
no you are just wearing Danny's blinders random thoughts - 11/01/2011 02:15:46 PM 833 Views
I try to steer clear of personal attacks. Joel - 11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM 747 Views
I try to make my point clear and I can't help if you skip them random thoughts - 11/01/2011 05:02:41 PM 742 Views
I didn't skip your points, I disputed them. Joel - 11/01/2011 05:51:10 PM 707 Views
you keep claiming both sides but you fail to offer any support random thoughts - 11/01/2011 06:00:41 PM 752 Views
Not so; you choose not to see the supporting arguments. Joel - 11/01/2011 10:21:09 PM 708 Views
repeating the same claim is not the same as supporting it random thoughts - 11/01/2011 11:36:52 PM 624 Views
Those who have accused specific people or groups will most likely have to backtrack and apologize. Legolas - 10/01/2011 06:48:33 PM 875 Views
they will neither back track or apologize random thoughts - 10/01/2011 07:54:54 PM 746 Views
I don't really think the NYT has crossed that line I was talking about. Legolas - 10/01/2011 09:54:36 PM 757 Views
not sure where you draw your line but this crosses mine random thoughts - 10/01/2011 10:11:04 PM 861 Views
Yes, well, Krugman is Krugman. Legolas - 10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM 697 Views
You see to be arguing we should assume his political views were created by the politcal climate random thoughts - 11/01/2011 03:03:15 PM 938 Views
Indeed I am. Legolas - 11/01/2011 06:18:56 PM 751 Views
it is not a wake up call to anything but left wing hestrics if their is no connection random thoughts - 11/01/2011 06:29:47 PM 920 Views
wasn't pim fortuyn a right winger though? moondog - 11/01/2011 04:33:26 PM 672 Views
Um, yes, that was pretty much the point I was making. Legolas - 11/01/2011 06:22:06 PM 751 Views
Was there anyhting besides his stance on immigration to support the argument he was far right? random thoughts - 11/01/2011 06:31:05 PM 896 Views
Yes, though it's true that is the key part. Legolas - 11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM 859 Views
can one posistion define you as being far right or far left? random thoughts - 11/01/2011 08:23:18 PM 789 Views
One single position? I wouldn't know, I can't think of any examples. Legolas - 11/01/2011 08:41:58 PM 839 Views
yes you did random thoughts - 11/01/2011 11:40:50 PM 969 Views
ok i get it now moondog - 12/01/2011 02:33:48 AM 706 Views
... cut both ways because soulless opportunism knows no creed: Joel - 10/01/2011 09:46:31 PM 800 Views
They probably wouldn't say much because it really doesn't show much random thoughts - 10/01/2011 09:58:46 PM 675 Views
It really doesn't show that he has "left leanings". Legolas - 10/01/2011 10:07:48 PM 779 Views
Well they call him a liberal and like it or not the Nazi movement was an extreme form of socialism random thoughts - 10/01/2011 10:22:04 PM 886 Views
Deep sigh. Legolas - 10/01/2011 10:34:33 PM 818 Views
well we are talking about the US right and left not the European one random thoughts - 11/01/2011 01:11:30 PM 753 Views
Actually, I believe we were talking about the Nazi right or left. Legolas - 11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM 844 Views
wow I really need to stop posting from my i-phone an you deserve a cookie for being able to follow random thoughts - 11/01/2011 07:48:35 PM 930 Views
A thousand times no. Joel - 11/01/2011 10:38:19 PM 970 Views
Bucnd and the Nazi part are and never were associtaed with what we consider American right politics random thoughts - 11/01/2011 11:34:46 PM 779 Views
What you do/n't "consider" part of the left/right is precisely the problem here. Joel - 12/01/2011 01:06:56 AM 926 Views
Thank you. Legolas - 12/01/2011 07:07:14 PM 832 Views
as for how they want to use this random thoughts - 12/01/2011 07:35:12 PM 882 Views
Liberal college professors didn't call the nazis far right, people who lived under Nazis did. Joel - 10/01/2011 10:56:33 PM 1056 Views
If demoniizing your opponet makes your a fscist then you have made my argument for me random thoughts - 11/01/2011 01:25:51 PM 876 Views
In a word, no. Joel - 11/01/2011 04:29:36 PM 707 Views
really would you like to point to the right trying to use this to demonize the left? random thoughts - 11/01/2011 05:59:49 PM 713 Views
I already have, irrespective of your inability and/or refusal to see it. Joel - 11/01/2011 09:53:38 PM 791 Views
so point pointing out blood libel is the same as commiting it? random thoughts - 11/01/2011 11:31:41 PM 1076 Views
I don't know enough about the story to say much save that partisan finger pointing is wrong. Joel - 10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM 858 Views
First I don't even know who WorldNet is so I see no reasont o defend them random thoughts - 11/01/2011 01:36:44 PM 744 Views
For someone who doens't know who WND is you sure circled the wagons around them fast. Joel - 11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM 936 Views
No they are in no way the same random thoughts - 11/01/2011 05:06:43 PM 718 Views
They're precisely the same in tone. Joel - 11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM 821 Views
the only thing you have proven is that you have zero support for your argument random thoughts - 11/01/2011 06:36:14 PM 740 Views
Enough. Joel - 11/01/2011 10:18:59 PM 727 Views
your evidience is dribble and if that is the best you can I am sorry random thoughts - 11/01/2011 11:39:05 PM 715 Views
Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives... Variant - 10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM 900 Views
Sounds like a plan. Joel - 10/01/2011 11:11:50 PM 808 Views
Which conseratives rushed to frame this for poltical gain? random thoughts - 11/01/2011 02:19:55 PM 707 Views
But that's how it always goes:"The animal is so treacherous; when it is attacked, it defends itself" Cannoli - 18/01/2011 03:15:35 PM 756 Views
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