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nice try but no random thoughts Send a noteboard - 10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM
Enough with the Liberal Bogey-man. Stop blaming the left for stuff the right does, as well. Stop acting like if this had been a GOP representative, we wouldn't be hearing a bizarro version of what is going on now.


Conservatives have been attacked in the past and I don't remember the media running articles claiming it was Pelosi or any other remember on the left. The Unabomber was a far left nutter and I don't remember the right blaming left wing media. When violence breaks out at some far left rally protesting what ever it is they are protesting this week I don't see an instant flood of blame directed at the left.

A democratic congressman actually blamed the republican decision to read the constitution for what happened so no nice try but the tired old pot and kettle rebuttal was a swing and a miss (as long as we are using tired clichés).

So sorry easy claim to make but you will need to actually back it up.

A terrible attack was made, people died, others were hurt, and all anyone on either side can do is get with the spinning. It isn't us, it isn't you, its everyone, so get over your illusory high ground and take some responsibility for the state of the country. Maybe think about the fact that it is significantly easier to get a gun than mental health care in America today. Maybe think about the vitriolic language used by both sides is literally designed to get people whipped into a frenzy, and some people were always going to take that too far.


Really it is turning out the guy was probably more of a lefty then anything else but I don't see anyone on the right blaming the angry rhetoric and hate mongering we see on the left. Get off your high horse and realize that the left has made it an accepted fact that most of the countries problems are caused by a toxic environment create by the right. They believe this in spite of the fact that most of them got it from left wing hate sites or the fact that ad hominem is the default attack mode for the left. See the attacks on Palin or Bush is you don’t believe.

Sorry but I don't see the constant whining on the right that we see coming from the left these days about tone. While the left is whining about how mean the right is they are launching personal attacks against them. It truly is astounding that they can embrace hypocrisy so strongly but it seems to part of the mindset.

So long as the easiest route to beating an opponent (dehumanizing them) is taken, we are open to stuff like this happening. This is the America all of us have created, and that all of us are responsible for.


Stuff like what happening? There is less then zero evidence that this guy was motivated by right wing politics so the only thing I can see happening is the left using a tragedy to support a political message (never waste a good tragedy) that cannot be supported by actual facts and making unfounded claims like yours that she was dehumanized or that is had any role in the events.
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The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel - 10/01/2011 04:02:29 AM 1509 Views
The people politicizing this are idiots. - 10/01/2011 04:44:37 AM 775 Views
Can't argue with that. - 10/01/2011 08:05:32 AM 745 Views
Nothing to argue with there. *NM* - 10/01/2011 05:04:49 AM 285 Views
I do agree it's not her fault; she is a non-entity. - 10/01/2011 12:38:24 PM 713 Views
I agree. *NM* - 10/01/2011 03:41:30 PM 452 Views
The NYT and liberal media have created a climate of stupidity - 10/01/2011 05:47:29 PM 805 Views
Pot, Kettle. I think you two should discuss your color. - 10/01/2011 09:26:05 PM 819 Views
nice try but no - 10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM 733 Views
Close your eyes and fill your ears all you want... - 10/01/2011 10:51:45 PM 712 Views
that is hoot coming from the chicken little party - 11/01/2011 02:17:37 PM 728 Views
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...." - 10/01/2011 11:53:10 PM 984 Views
no you are just wearing Danny's blinders - 11/01/2011 02:15:46 PM 831 Views
I try to steer clear of personal attacks. - 11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM 745 Views
I try to make my point clear and I can't help if you skip them - 11/01/2011 05:02:41 PM 738 Views
I didn't skip your points, I disputed them. - 11/01/2011 05:51:10 PM 704 Views
you keep claiming both sides but you fail to offer any support - 11/01/2011 06:00:41 PM 749 Views
Not so; you choose not to see the supporting arguments. - 11/01/2011 10:21:09 PM 705 Views
repeating the same claim is not the same as supporting it - 11/01/2011 11:36:52 PM 622 Views
Those who have accused specific people or groups will most likely have to backtrack and apologize. - 10/01/2011 06:48:33 PM 874 Views
they will neither back track or apologize - 10/01/2011 07:54:54 PM 746 Views
I don't really think the NYT has crossed that line I was talking about. - 10/01/2011 09:54:36 PM 756 Views
not sure where you draw your line but this crosses mine - 10/01/2011 10:11:04 PM 859 Views
Yes, well, Krugman is Krugman. - 10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM 696 Views
You see to be arguing we should assume his political views were created by the politcal climate - 11/01/2011 03:03:15 PM 936 Views
Indeed I am. - 11/01/2011 06:18:56 PM 749 Views
wasn't pim fortuyn a right winger though? - 11/01/2011 04:33:26 PM 670 Views
Um, yes, that was pretty much the point I was making. - 11/01/2011 06:22:06 PM 750 Views
Was there anyhting besides his stance on immigration to support the argument he was far right? - 11/01/2011 06:31:05 PM 895 Views
Yes, though it's true that is the key part. - 11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM 858 Views
can one posistion define you as being far right or far left? - 11/01/2011 08:23:18 PM 789 Views
One single position? I wouldn't know, I can't think of any examples. - 11/01/2011 08:41:58 PM 838 Views
yes you did - 11/01/2011 11:40:50 PM 967 Views
ok i get it now - 12/01/2011 02:33:48 AM 704 Views
... cut both ways because soulless opportunism knows no creed: - 10/01/2011 09:46:31 PM 795 Views
They probably wouldn't say much because it really doesn't show much - 10/01/2011 09:58:46 PM 673 Views
It really doesn't show that he has "left leanings". - 10/01/2011 10:07:48 PM 778 Views
Well they call him a liberal and like it or not the Nazi movement was an extreme form of socialism - 10/01/2011 10:22:04 PM 884 Views
Deep sigh. - 10/01/2011 10:34:33 PM 817 Views
well we are talking about the US right and left not the European one - 11/01/2011 01:11:30 PM 749 Views
Actually, I believe we were talking about the Nazi right or left. - 11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM 844 Views
wow I really need to stop posting from my i-phone an you deserve a cookie for being able to follow - 11/01/2011 07:48:35 PM 925 Views
A thousand times no. - 11/01/2011 10:38:19 PM 967 Views
Thank you. - 12/01/2011 07:07:14 PM 830 Views
as for how they want to use this - 12/01/2011 07:35:12 PM 881 Views
Liberal college professors didn't call the nazis far right, people who lived under Nazis did. - 10/01/2011 10:56:33 PM 1052 Views
If demoniizing your opponet makes your a fscist then you have made my argument for me - 11/01/2011 01:25:51 PM 876 Views
In a word, no. - 11/01/2011 04:29:36 PM 705 Views
really would you like to point to the right trying to use this to demonize the left? - 11/01/2011 05:59:49 PM 711 Views
I already have, irrespective of your inability and/or refusal to see it. - 11/01/2011 09:53:38 PM 790 Views
so point pointing out blood libel is the same as commiting it? - 11/01/2011 11:31:41 PM 1075 Views
I don't know enough about the story to say much save that partisan finger pointing is wrong. - 10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM 856 Views
First I don't even know who WorldNet is so I see no reasont o defend them - 11/01/2011 01:36:44 PM 743 Views
For someone who doens't know who WND is you sure circled the wagons around them fast. - 11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM 935 Views
No they are in no way the same - 11/01/2011 05:06:43 PM 714 Views
They're precisely the same in tone. - 11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM 817 Views
the only thing you have proven is that you have zero support for your argument - 11/01/2011 06:36:14 PM 740 Views
Enough. - 11/01/2011 10:18:59 PM 726 Views
your evidience is dribble and if that is the best you can I am sorry - 11/01/2011 11:39:05 PM 711 Views
Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives... - 10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM 900 Views
Sounds like a plan. - 10/01/2011 11:11:50 PM 806 Views

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