Enough with the Liberal Bogey-man. Stop blaming the left for stuff the right does, as well. Stop acting like if this had been a GOP representative, we wouldn't be hearing a bizarro version of what is going on now.
Conservatives have been attacked in the past and I don't remember the media running articles claiming it was Pelosi or any other remember on the left. The Unabomber was a far left nutter and I don't remember the right blaming left wing media. When violence breaks out at some far left rally protesting what ever it is they are protesting this week I don't see an instant flood of blame directed at the left.
A democratic congressman actually blamed the republican decision to read the constitution for what happened so no nice try but the tired old pot and kettle rebuttal was a swing and a miss (as long as we are using tired clichés).
So sorry easy claim to make but you will need to actually back it up.
A terrible attack was made, people died, others were hurt, and all anyone on either side can do is get with the spinning. It isn't us, it isn't you, its everyone, so get over your illusory high ground and take some responsibility for the state of the country. Maybe think about the fact that it is significantly easier to get a gun than mental health care in America today. Maybe think about the vitriolic language used by both sides is literally designed to get people whipped into a frenzy, and some people were always going to take that too far.
Really it is turning out the guy was probably more of a lefty then anything else but I don't see anyone on the right blaming the angry rhetoric and hate mongering we see on the left. Get off your high horse and realize that the left has made it an accepted fact that most of the countries problems are caused by a toxic environment create by the right. They believe this in spite of the fact that most of them got it from left wing hate sites or the fact that ad hominem is the default attack mode for the left. See the attacks on Palin or Bush is you don’t believe.
Sorry but I don't see the constant whining on the right that we see coming from the left these days about tone. While the left is whining about how mean the right is they are launching personal attacks against them. It truly is astounding that they can embrace hypocrisy so strongly but it seems to part of the mindset.
So long as the easiest route to beating an opponent (dehumanizing them) is taken, we are open to stuff like this happening. This is the America all of us have created, and that all of us are responsible for.
Stuff like what happening? There is less then zero evidence that this guy was motivated by right wing politics so the only thing I can see happening is the left using a tragedy to support a political message (never waste a good tragedy) that cannot be supported by actual facts and making unfounded claims like yours that she was dehumanized or that is had any role in the events.
The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel
10/01/2011 04:02:29 AM
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The NYT and liberal media have created a climate of stupidity
10/01/2011 05:47:29 PM
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Pot, Kettle. I think you two should discuss your color.
10/01/2011 09:26:05 PM
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nice try but no
10/01/2011 09:52:01 PM
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"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...."
10/01/2011 11:53:10 PM
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no you are just wearing Danny's blinders
11/01/2011 02:15:46 PM
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I try to steer clear of personal attacks.
11/01/2011 04:00:35 PM
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I try to make my point clear and I can't help if you skip them
11/01/2011 05:02:41 PM
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I didn't skip your points, I disputed them.
11/01/2011 05:51:10 PM
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you keep claiming both sides but you fail to offer any support
11/01/2011 06:00:41 PM
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Those who have accused specific people or groups will most likely have to backtrack and apologize.
10/01/2011 06:48:33 PM
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they will neither back track or apologize
10/01/2011 07:54:54 PM
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I don't really think the NYT has crossed that line I was talking about.
10/01/2011 09:54:36 PM
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not sure where you draw your line but this crosses mine
10/01/2011 10:11:04 PM
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Yes, well, Krugman is Krugman.
10/01/2011 10:25:31 PM
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You see to be arguing we should assume his political views were created by the politcal climate
11/01/2011 03:03:15 PM
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Indeed I am.
11/01/2011 06:18:56 PM
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it is not a wake up call to anything but left wing hestrics if their is no connection
11/01/2011 06:29:47 PM
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wasn't pim fortuyn a right winger though?
11/01/2011 04:33:26 PM
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Um, yes, that was pretty much the point I was making.
11/01/2011 06:22:06 PM
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Was there anyhting besides his stance on immigration to support the argument he was far right?
11/01/2011 06:31:05 PM
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Yes, though it's true that is the key part.
11/01/2011 07:11:13 PM
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can one posistion define you as being far right or far left?
11/01/2011 08:23:18 PM
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One single position? I wouldn't know, I can't think of any examples.
11/01/2011 08:41:58 PM
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... cut both ways because soulless opportunism knows no creed:
10/01/2011 09:46:31 PM
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They probably wouldn't say much because it really doesn't show much
10/01/2011 09:58:46 PM
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It really doesn't show that he has "left leanings".
10/01/2011 10:07:48 PM
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Well they call him a liberal and like it or not the Nazi movement was an extreme form of socialism
10/01/2011 10:22:04 PM
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Deep sigh.
10/01/2011 10:34:33 PM
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well we are talking about the US right and left not the European one
11/01/2011 01:11:30 PM
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Actually, I believe we were talking about the Nazi right or left.
11/01/2011 07:04:56 PM
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wow I really need to stop posting from my i-phone an you deserve a cookie for being able to follow
11/01/2011 07:48:35 PM
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A thousand times no.
11/01/2011 10:38:19 PM
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Bucnd and the Nazi part are and never were associtaed with what we consider American right politics
11/01/2011 11:34:46 PM
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What you do/n't "consider" part of the left/right is precisely the problem here.
12/01/2011 01:06:56 AM
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Liberal college professors didn't call the nazis far right, people who lived under Nazis did.
10/01/2011 10:56:33 PM
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If demoniizing your opponet makes your a fscist then you have made my argument for me
11/01/2011 01:25:51 PM
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In a word, no.
11/01/2011 04:29:36 PM
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really would you like to point to the right trying to use this to demonize the left?
11/01/2011 05:59:49 PM
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I already have, irrespective of your inability and/or refusal to see it.
11/01/2011 09:53:38 PM
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I don't know enough about the story to say much save that partisan finger pointing is wrong.
10/01/2011 10:30:51 PM
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First I don't even know who WorldNet is so I see no reasont o defend them
11/01/2011 01:36:44 PM
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For someone who doens't know who WND is you sure circled the wagons around them fast.
11/01/2011 04:21:40 PM
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No they are in no way the same
11/01/2011 05:06:43 PM
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They're precisely the same in tone.
11/01/2011 06:04:42 PM
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the only thing you have proven is that you have zero support for your argument
11/01/2011 06:36:14 PM
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Enough.
11/01/2011 10:18:59 PM
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your evidience is dribble and if that is the best you can I am sorry
11/01/2011 11:39:05 PM
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Liberals and Conservatives have rushed to frame Jared Lee Loughner’s motives...
10/01/2011 10:34:09 PM
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Which conseratives rushed to frame this for poltical gain?
11/01/2011 02:19:55 PM
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But that's how it always goes:"The animal is so treacherous; when it is attacked, it defends itself"
18/01/2011 03:15:35 PM
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