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Many good points there; I think I'll let you play Defender of the Faith for a bit. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 08:50:23 AM
You still have the ability I've lost to argue clearly and in detail without getting angry, and since you're saying everything I would've a lot BETTER than I would've the smart thing is to get out of your way. VERY good point about the nature of sin; each of us has our own unique list of sins, but that doesn't make any of us better, just all of us different. The legal ones are just as sinful, but it's not a theocracy, and even if it were, what is Christianity without choice? I don't single anyone out, and I've no interest in persecuting anyone, but if someone brings it up I'm not going to deny my Lord, or be so worried about making them angry that imperiling their immortal soul is preferable.

None of that, in my admittedly biased opinion, gives Savage or anyone the right to get in my face about it any more than I have the right to get in his. If he wants to take me or the letter writer to task for something we've done or condoned that's one thing, but projecting an extremist caricature onto all Christians is no more fair than when it's done to other groups.
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Love the Sinner - 13/10/2010 04:07:28 PM 1254 Views
I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 04:30:56 PM 782 Views
Suicide is significantly higher in young gay populations - 13/10/2010 05:36:01 PM 721 Views
That is not what I think requires thought - 13/10/2010 05:56:06 PM 734 Views
Nossy I ain't a mind reader, no matter how I try or how much I would do Jean Grey - 13/10/2010 06:06:42 PM 856 Views
for ze record - 14/10/2010 02:54:07 AM 752 Views
ok now show that it caused by what Christian beliefs *NM* - 13/10/2010 06:50:32 PM 367 Views
I don't think it's the belief's themselves - 14/10/2010 12:20:01 AM 768 Views
The churches who encourage people to bully gays should be condemned - 14/10/2010 06:43:06 PM 758 Views
Re: I have to think about that for a while. - 13/10/2010 06:29:09 PM 759 Views
He was very frank but completely founded - 13/10/2010 04:34:46 PM 825 Views
Ah, that Ghandi quote sure does get around. (which is funny, since he wasn't a Christian) - 13/10/2010 05:07:42 PM 837 Views
I'm not sure that is true - 13/10/2010 05:16:30 PM 724 Views
I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 05:45:45 PM 807 Views
Question (and this one actually is asking for information )... - 13/10/2010 06:42:17 PM 650 Views
Yes and no - 13/10/2010 06:53:26 PM 911 Views
Okay, fair enough. *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:48:21 PM 324 Views
I would think... - 14/10/2010 04:35:31 AM 800 Views
I have seen gays be bullied before - 13/10/2010 07:02:35 PM 851 Views
You just didn't listen to a thing I said *NM* - 13/10/2010 07:09:29 PM 330 Views
I think there's truth in this as well. - 13/10/2010 07:55:00 PM 778 Views
churches tend to refelect society as much if not more then they influence it - 14/10/2010 07:15:35 PM 753 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 08:30:42 PM 810 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 13/10/2010 09:55:52 PM 812 Views
Re: I think you are missing his point - 14/10/2010 03:49:14 PM 816 Views
Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 05:49:22 PM 850 Views
Re: Actually you can very much debate whether homosexuality is a sin on a textual level - 14/10/2010 08:52:24 PM 852 Views
Do you know greek or hebrew? - 14/10/2010 08:57:32 PM 711 Views
I know a few words here and there, but not really. Do you? - 14/10/2010 10:46:36 PM 835 Views
I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 03:02:16 PM 815 Views
Re: I don't look to Christianity for my answers - 15/10/2010 04:27:25 PM 845 Views
You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 05:51:53 PM 851 Views
so should Christians abandon other religious conviction to stop bullying? - 13/10/2010 07:39:54 PM 749 Views
Re: You're kind of sidestepping a large part of his point - 13/10/2010 08:23:07 PM 777 Views
That seems a little myopic to me. - 14/10/2010 09:16:27 AM 758 Views
Many good points there; I think I'll let you play Defender of the Faith for a bit. - 14/10/2010 08:50:23 AM 858 Views
I think he is jackass that does not believe other's can have apoint of view - 13/10/2010 06:48:12 PM 750 Views
That's right, bullying would go away if we didn't have Christians to make moral judgements on things - 13/10/2010 08:11:27 PM 829 Views
I mostly agree - 13/10/2010 08:19:00 PM 907 Views
most of the bullies I remember from school were not known for their regular church attendance - 14/10/2010 07:24:06 PM 734 Views
I thought I pretty much agreed with you on that point - 14/10/2010 07:44:07 PM 783 Views
Interesting - 13/10/2010 08:56:46 PM 1070 Views
Sometime rants do work and change people's mind - 13/10/2010 09:23:39 PM 655 Views
and sometoimes they are just rants *NM* - 13/10/2010 10:01:55 PM 306 Views
Okay my response now - 14/10/2010 06:04:02 PM 808 Views
He becomes what he hates. - 14/10/2010 02:40:19 AM 936 Views
Good stuff. *NM* - 14/10/2010 02:56:44 AM 330 Views
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I think Chora has dibs on that bumper sticker. - 14/10/2010 09:35:02 AM 892 Views
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It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 15/10/2010 01:16:10 AM 739 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 05:20:56 AM 838 Views
Re: It's nothing at all like cultural relativism. - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 AM 756 Views
I don't think there is any question... - 14/10/2010 04:42:45 AM 781 Views
If I may quibble: - 14/10/2010 05:22:22 AM 631 Views
He's bullying Christians - 14/10/2010 04:47:13 AM 763 Views
I agree - 14/10/2010 04:09:23 PM 860 Views
Two seperate things are mingled here - 14/10/2010 09:50:42 AM 956 Views

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