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I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... Rebekah Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM
... just because they used a word that's so frequently thrown around as an insult. Quite often good naturedly, especially in highly macho arenas like rugby fandom can be. The biggest insult that macho blokes can throw at other blokes is weakness, and that's the meaning that faggot most often has in those circles.

It's like calling someone an arsehole. You just say it, and most often don't mean it.

Yes, it is certainly becoming a horrible insult for homosexuals, but she probably heard it a lot from her older male relatives so it won't have that meaning for her.

The American influence really only became huge in the late 70s and early 80s. Faggot is a much older insult than that.


That's what I mean. So no, she doesn't need to "soul search". She needs to think before she speaks or tweets, or whatever. And she needs to remember the connotation the word has for most people around the world and not use it again. That's as far as it needs to go, IMO.
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Interesting way to bring people together - 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM 1632 Views
That is priceless. Go Stephanie Rice! *NM* - 08/09/2010 04:38:27 PM 390 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 975 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 668 Views
1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching... - 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM 939 Views
? not that her comment was excusable... - 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM 1010 Views
It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM 1137 Views
or it just means... - 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM 1050 Views
Societal problems don't go away from the group level. - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM 892 Views
your soul is your being - 08/09/2010 08:43:18 PM 934 Views
Just because you search does not mean you re-evaluate. - 08/09/2010 08:45:31 PM 814 Views
You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies). - 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM 896 Views
I was trying to use her words... - 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM 961 Views
Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there. - 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM 859 Views
Glad to clear up that confusion. - 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM 1039 Views
I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology. - 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM 901 Views
I'm horrible for tearing into the meaning of words. - 08/09/2010 11:36:34 PM 877 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 08/09/2010 10:46:12 PM 478 Views
You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot. - 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM 792 Views
I've seen it, and it was funny. - 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM 983 Views
Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries. - 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM 856 Views
I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM 851 Views
The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer. - 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM 1040 Views
OK, I can see that. - 08/09/2010 10:09:16 PM 915 Views
I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM 908 Views
Don't forget Poofta!! - 08/09/2010 10:57:00 PM 706 Views
Heh, I had forgotten that. - 08/09/2010 10:58:53 PM 915 Views
She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol - 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM 1123 Views
Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM 1072 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:39:52 PM 1156 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:43:55 PM 921 Views
mm, i doubt that would make people shut up - 08/09/2010 08:44:29 PM 785 Views
A concerted effort would do it... - 08/09/2010 08:47:50 PM 868 Views
heh, it's pretty cool that everyone came together like that - 08/09/2010 10:52:50 PM 680 Views
"Just because a person is gay, mayor, doesn't mean he is a fag" - 09/09/2010 05:27:50 AM 773 Views
It was a very good game though, wasn't it? *NM* - 09/09/2010 12:56:33 PM 497 Views

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