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I imagine if the UK changes it will move to Proportional Representation Mark Send a noteboard - 07/05/2010 10:04:38 AM
With a Single Transferable Vote much like Ireland uses. This would involve multi-seat seat constituencies.

From wikipedia

This method of proportional representation uses a system of preferential voting to determine the results of the election

A constituency elects two or more representatives per electorate. Consequently the constituency is proportionally larger than a single member constituency. Parties tend to offer as many candidates as they most optimistically could expect to win: the major parties may nominate almost as many candidates as there are seats, while the minor parties and independents rather fewer. Voters mark their ballot, allocating preferences to their preferred ranking for some or all candidates. A successful candidate must achieve a quota, being the total number of votes received divided by the number of candidates to be elected plus one, plus one; i.e. in a nine member constituency the quota would be (the number of votes divided by 10) +1. Only in a few cases is this achieved at the first count. For the second count, if a candidate wins election her/his surplus vote (in excess of the quota) is transferred to her/his voters' second choices; otherwise, the least popular candidate is eliminated and her/his votes redistributed according to the second preference shown on them. If there are more than one candidate who can not get enough votes after the transfer of votes of least popular candidate, she or he will be eliminated too (as they could not avoid it on the next round under any circumstance).

This process continues for as many counts as are needed until all seats are filled either by the required number of candidates achieving a quota and being deemed to be elected or until there are only the number of candidates remaining as there are number of seats. Although the counting process is complicated, voting is clear and most voters get at least one of their preferences elected.

All deputies are answerable directly to their local constituents. Some political scientists argue that STV is more properly classified as 'semi-proportional' as there is no assurance of a proportional result at a nationwide level. Indeed, many advocates of STV would argue that preventing nationwide proportionality is one of the primary goals of the system, to avoid the perceived risks of a very highly fragmented legislature.


It's a far from perfect system and many here (including myself) would rather we move to a list system, but it is certainly an improvement over first past the post single seat constituencies.
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Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats. - 07/05/2010 09:29:03 AM 1658 Views
Re: Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats. - 07/05/2010 09:45:23 AM 1102 Views
So what would you move to? - 07/05/2010 09:53:51 AM 938 Views
I imagine if the UK changes it will move to Proportional Representation - 07/05/2010 10:04:38 AM 1037 Views
Re: So what would you move to? - 07/05/2010 02:55:32 PM 1041 Views
God I hate the British system - 07/05/2010 10:24:35 AM 1073 Views
It's an excellent morning. Conservatives are at 301 right now. *NM* - 07/05/2010 01:57:52 PM 558 Views
Are you counting the Speaker? *NM* - 07/05/2010 01:59:37 PM 602 Views
Indeed - 07/05/2010 02:22:37 PM 1103 Views
I love how they're calling that option "The Coalition of the Losers". - 07/05/2010 02:27:56 PM 1014 Views
They are? Where? - 07/05/2010 02:38:01 PM 1147 Views
On the lovely BBC. Paxman, Robinson, Dimbleby et al. - 07/05/2010 02:52:01 PM 1035 Views
Ah, we have it on but with the sound turned down - the subtitlers must be skipping that phrase - 07/05/2010 03:13:57 PM 982 Views
The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results. - 07/05/2010 03:45:58 PM 1027 Views
That is true - 07/05/2010 03:53:51 PM 1038 Views
Re: That is true - 07/05/2010 03:54:51 PM 1059 Views
I'm sure it would be a setup for new elections in a few months if they did. *NM* - 07/05/2010 02:40:49 PM 559 Views
I suspect we'll get one of those anyway. - 07/05/2010 02:52:32 PM 1017 Views
What is the general consensus on who would win or lose from new elections? - 07/05/2010 02:57:04 PM 1165 Views
I've not heard any comment on this yet. I might have missed some. - 07/05/2010 02:58:00 PM 1041 Views
Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though - 07/05/2010 03:21:23 PM 1167 Views
Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though - 07/05/2010 03:29:37 PM 1145 Views
King William IV indeed. - 07/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 1116 Views
Re: King William IV indeed. - 07/05/2010 03:40:41 PM 965 Views
Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though - 07/05/2010 04:04:03 PM 1046 Views
I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn - 07/05/2010 04:09:51 PM 1058 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn - 07/05/2010 04:24:56 PM 932 Views
Yes. - 07/05/2010 04:26:50 PM 811 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn - 07/05/2010 04:28:45 PM 1006 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn - 07/05/2010 04:34:41 PM 989 Views
I'm sure he is - 07/05/2010 04:25:20 PM 1059 Views
Heh. - 07/05/2010 04:27:44 PM 1103 Views
Re: Heh. - 07/05/2010 04:43:18 PM 1100 Views
Re: I'm sure he is - 07/05/2010 04:40:07 PM 1037 Views
Cameron might be in trouble anyway. - 07/05/2010 06:25:14 PM 1147 Views
If they got PR as part of the deal it would be worth it - 07/05/2010 02:42:36 PM 1151 Views
Possibly. - 07/05/2010 02:53:28 PM 1169 Views
Re: Possibly. - 07/05/2010 03:00:55 PM 958 Views
I didn't mean from that point of view. - 07/05/2010 03:05:05 PM 1038 Views
Re: I didn't mean from that point of view. - 07/05/2010 03:18:57 PM 1048 Views
Short term pain for long term gain - 07/05/2010 03:02:51 PM 1134 Views
Re: Indeed - 07/05/2010 03:45:00 PM 1064 Views
Re: Indeed - 07/05/2010 03:59:41 PM 1154 Views
Here's what i would do to sink the Tories - 07/05/2010 04:06:10 PM 1023 Views
that does sound strange - 07/05/2010 10:57:10 AM 985 Views
The breakdown is pretty wack - 07/05/2010 11:07:20 AM 997 Views
Tell me about it. - 07/05/2010 11:14:44 AM 1016 Views
I liked that as well - 07/05/2010 11:46:42 AM 1074 Views
I'm in the Cities of London and Westminster constituency. - 07/05/2010 11:56:04 AM 1043 Views
Not that I'd ever try to one-up you. - 07/05/2010 12:54:47 PM 1095 Views
- 07/05/2010 01:44:03 PM 973 Views
Re: The breakdown is pretty wack - 07/05/2010 03:23:32 PM 1019 Views
Same here - 07/05/2010 03:47:51 PM 969 Views
Re: Same here - 07/05/2010 03:56:46 PM 1122 Views
A simple change is all - 07/05/2010 01:16:16 PM 1060 Views
That's not a simple change. THIS is a simple change: - 07/05/2010 01:59:09 PM 1047 Views
Not that simple - 07/05/2010 02:45:00 PM 1000 Views
Because my school was a polling station we used to get the day off every polling day - 07/05/2010 02:51:18 PM 1160 Views
Show off - 07/05/2010 02:53:16 PM 1003 Views
Re: Not that simple - 07/05/2010 03:04:57 PM 1153 Views
Re: Not that simple - 07/05/2010 03:14:46 PM 1150 Views
Re: Not that simple - 07/05/2010 03:20:55 PM 846 Views
PR is hardly too difficult to implement and is much more democratic - 07/05/2010 02:48:01 PM 1028 Views
I hate the list system. - 07/05/2010 02:55:39 PM 1067 Views
There are many different versions - 07/05/2010 03:10:38 PM 986 Views
It's that bad i registered to moan. - 07/05/2010 02:53:37 PM 1072 Views
Conservatives win and the stock market plummets. j/k - 07/05/2010 03:40:11 PM 952 Views
Oh, and the other interesting thing will be seeing whether the Conservatives offer.... - 07/05/2010 03:57:52 PM 1125 Views
I like John Major - 07/05/2010 04:01:03 PM 1003 Views
There's only one the LibDems will be interested in though. - 07/05/2010 06:30:55 PM 1109 Views
But - 07/05/2010 08:21:11 PM 1046 Views
Isn't that the very definition of a coalition? - 07/05/2010 08:16:05 PM 1044 Views
OK here is the map of England by constituency, blue Tory, red NUlab - 07/05/2010 05:00:20 PM 1010 Views
So I'm just one of those upstart colonists....explain to me what is going on.... - 07/05/2010 05:26:59 PM 992 Views
Basically... - 07/05/2010 06:43:10 PM 1027 Views
And things are changing already - 08/05/2010 04:08:47 PM 1102 Views
To be fair, I don't know it makes for much of a change - 08/05/2010 04:20:26 PM 1120 Views
I thought they weren't allowed to do that if Brown isn't Prime Minister? - 08/05/2010 04:52:39 PM 1072 Views
The latter, I'd say. - 08/05/2010 05:43:23 PM 1366 Views
Brown is PM at the moment - 08/05/2010 06:16:48 PM 998 Views
They certainly can. - 09/05/2010 04:37:46 PM 1094 Views
God, our system is fucked up *NM* - 07/05/2010 06:25:04 PM 587 Views
If i were the tories - 07/05/2010 11:28:43 PM 1047 Views
Sounds like the pressure is on for Cameron - 08/05/2010 02:01:49 PM 1095 Views
Hmmm - 13/05/2010 12:08:04 PM 1364 Views
Completely uncalled for! - 13/05/2010 01:12:05 PM 1176 Views
How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? - 13/05/2010 09:52:24 PM 1459 Views
Re: How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? - 13/05/2010 10:59:35 PM 1059 Views
Yes I jumped the gun on the 12 - 14/05/2010 09:53:49 AM 1048 Views
Re: Yes I jumped the gun on the 12 - 14/05/2010 10:45:35 AM 952 Views

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