I agree with your distinction between him being racist and there being racist elements in the book; the author of that article does not. Or perhaps she does, and wouldn't even be wasting her time on writing an article if she thought Tolkien was an actual racist in the evident sense of the word.
Tolkien does include other races, though. The non-white men get very little attention - they fight on the evil side, though, even if Sam makes his famous comment at one point about how they are just ordinary people like them. But all the orcs and goblins...
You may be right about the orcs/goblins; we can't know. I, however, always thought of them as corrupted beings, much the same way angels were supposedly corrupted down into demons and devils - a process that takes them from pearly-shininess to grody, slimy darkness. Orcs/goblins don't give me racist feelings at all. I do agree about the men on Sauron's side, and almost mentioned that. Just because it is a historical connection (the main theme he seems to have featured in his novels) to centuries-long history between Europeans and more exotic races, doesn't mean it isn't racist in tone.
She also quotes a comment by Tolkien comparing his Dwarves to Jews, based on their being obsessed by gold and riches - which is indeed anti-semitism of a kind that would be normal in an author of a century earlier, but not so much post-WW2. Not that the Dwarves are depicted as bad guys (despite the blog author's attempt to suggest so by quoting the most negative passage about them, from early on in The Hobbit), but still.
I have never heard that, but I would say that it seems we're in that narrow area between not being politically correct and getting into actual racism. It would be much worse if he had turned the dwarves into evil characters, but they certainly are not, and he didn't repeatedly connect them to other Jewish stereotypes, unless I'm simply not aware of what/how. Yet again, it seems that he was less careful about using stereotypical definitions, not necessarily trying to make a racist statement - unless we're counting positive racism? "Hey, dwarves are Jews, BUT look how much we love them!"
She doesn't find anything more to complain about concerning Galadriel than that she is "placed on a pedestal". About Eowyn, she's more convincing... the end of that storyline, after all, is that Eowyn does go back to doing what she's supposed to do, and looks back at her desire to break free as being a silly thing.
Unfortunately, I feel like I look like I'm making excuses, but I am just telling you how I've interpreted these things while reading. I always thought Eowyn was stupidly impetuous when she didn't listen to Theoden telling her how much the people needed her. I thought that at the end, she lost her crush and met someone she could actually love (rather than being married off for convenience or ties) and realized that great people (she is more than just a woman) have certain responsibilities. It always seemed more like "growing up" to me than falling back into a "place." So anyway. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows.
This message last edited by nossy on 29/01/2012 at 11:14:11 PM
The racist elements in Tolkien's writing
29/01/2012 01:31:02 PM
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She has some points, of course.
29/01/2012 02:25:32 PM
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Quite a few points
29/01/2012 02:40:45 PM
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I don't find the tone blunt; I find it leading, patronizing and often wrong or inferring too much.
30/01/2012 01:43:27 AM
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Agreed - reading it, I struggled to find any redeeming qualities
30/01/2012 07:32:58 PM
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Agreed, in general. The tremendous bad faith and sophistry turn me off, though.
29/01/2012 09:31:04 PM
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Mostly agreed with the article, but thought she undermined herself with her own racism.
29/01/2012 02:50:11 PM
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Just read your Twitter convo... nice try, but looks like wasted effort. *NM*
29/01/2012 10:37:08 PM
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Well, I'll be honest.
29/01/2012 10:34:46 PM
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Let me try to summarize some of her points with the invective filtered out, then.
29/01/2012 10:48:24 PM
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Thank you.
29/01/2012 11:10:13 PM
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What the hell, might as well go and play devil's advocate, right?
30/01/2012 04:50:30 PM
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I expected that.
30/01/2012 05:39:59 PM
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Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
30/01/2012 10:28:10 PM
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Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
31/01/2012 12:39:46 AM
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Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
31/01/2012 08:38:46 PM
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I <3 you, but there are several very key things we are not going to agree on.
31/01/2012 10:02:22 PM
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Hmm?
31/01/2012 10:10:22 PM
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Yeah. I got to reading Encyclopedia of Arda just now, and it told me the same thing.
31/01/2012 10:35:54 PM
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As a sort of group answer (I've been mostly absent from forums the past two days)
31/01/2012 10:45:55 PM
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I don't mind if you tell me I'm out of line here, but
31/01/2012 11:55:04 PM
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I'm rarely ever offended
01/02/2012 01:54:58 AM
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She was referring specifically to the Twitter "conversation" I had with the blogger.
01/02/2012 09:05:28 AM
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Yes.
01/02/2012 10:47:22 AM
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It makes me wonder what she thinks is happening in Zimbabwe, for example.
01/02/2012 11:13:11 AM
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I've been thinking about that.
01/02/2012 11:29:18 AM
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That blog post was mostly good, but the exception is a rather large one.
01/02/2012 08:35:57 PM
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What's a neckbeard? And why am I supposed to care? *NM*
30/01/2012 01:29:07 AM
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neckbeards are when the person (either intentionally or through misfortunate genetics)...
30/01/2012 03:21:09 AM
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acrackedmoon is a racist, sexist bore. And I don't even like Tolkien. *NM*
30/01/2012 01:14:17 PM
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