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Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Rebekah Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM
Aberforth and Dumbledore: I like him. He is grumbly and bitter, but lovely and surprisingly competent. His comment that "brains like that, you could be a Death Eater, son" gives him +1,000 points. It is clear that he has issues, however, although that is perhaps not surprising. Again, I do not think what is being said about Dumbledore can be taken at face value. It is the opinion of an anything but objective character, who clearly does not understand the concept of a cause as a valid motivation for action. I can see how that would develop, as he saw his brother seduced by the idea of the Greater Good, and then his sister died.

He's a very well written character. Was he ALWAYS the innkeeper at the Hogs Head?

But the Dumbledore we see in the books is not blindly going for Greater Good -- as seen, for example, in his teaching manners to Death Eaters as he is about to be killed, or in his urging Harry and Hermione to save Sirius. While there is still the attempt to orchestrate a movement and create a successful tactic to defeat what is wrong, that is very different from the Greater Good dreams of his youth. He is no longer trying to control others for their betterment. It has moved from a totalitarian ideal to one which attempts to do right in the particulars, the details and in everyday life, but which as part of that will stand up and work with what means are available against an evil attempt to instate that control which he has rejected.

Agreed.

So, to Aberforth's question, "You don't think I understood my own brother", I think I'll answer a polite, but firm, "no". To be fair, Aberforth cannot know the pivotal part of Harry in defeating Voldemort, and so his assumption makes sense.

Definitely agreed.

I really like his description of the young Dumbledore, however. It makes Albus sound like Percy (only competent). It would seem that Dumbledore had a massive personality shift, or at least gained a new perspective from his sister's death. It seems to me that much of what he had written to Grindewald was in response to the torture of Ariana, and it only makes sense to me as an attempt to make sure that that does not happen again. But I do not think you could argue that the Dumbledore we have met would ever ignore the smaller and powerless in favour of the grand plan again. Not surprisingly.

~nods~ Quite.

But the speech says as much about Aberforth. His insistence that he was closer to Ariana than Albus, it is the voice of a younger brother who lives in the shadow of his older. He reminds me a little of Ron, only bitter instead of insecure. It has the anger of Ron's attitude to Percy, but because Percy is not someone generally admired, that lacks an important dimension, I think.

I am agreeing with you a very great deal here. :|

Yes. That may have gotten a little defensive, but there it is.

Neville: I like battle-scarred Neville. He wears them with pride, and I love how he explains what he did to deserve them. I also think it is quite funny that he has taken one of Harry's bad traits (his inability to control his temper) and modelled himself on it. He is the centre of the resistance. And I love his Gran now.

He's wonderful. I'm very much looking forward to seeing him in the final film.

I also like the general insistence that they will help. And Neville is right, all those in the room have proven themselves by now. In part by having entered at all, as Neville's sensible requirement that no one affiliated with the Carrows can enter.

Absolutely. I just love so much how Neville has grown. We see that if Voldemort had chosen him as his nemesis then he wouldn't necessarily have been lacking in confidence like he was at the beginning of the series.

Ginny: I like her insistence that Luna, not Cho, show Harry the Ravenclaw common room. I also sympathise with her wish not to be sent away from the final showdown. Not least because her whole family, as well as her boyfriend, are all likely to die any minute.

And she'd be able to help a lot. She's rather a strong witch.

Luna: I like her reaction to the Ravenclaw first-years standing around the stunned body of Alecto: "Oh, look. They're pleased!"

So cute.

McGonagall: So cool. And for some reason her using the Imperius Curse validates Harry's using it in my mind. And I love how she does it. After all, it is not a matter of making them do something that breakes with their integrity -- she just makes him lie down without a fuss.

Yup.

I also like her reaction to Harry's assurance that he is acting on Dumbledore's orders. And her comment that "We teachers are rather good at magic, you know". I also like her altercation with Snape, and how she raises the statues to defend the school.

She's glorious. I love love love Maggie Smith as the choice for her in the films. She IS McGonagall. These films are so well cast.

Harry: I can't believe he used the Cruciatus curse. This is rather shocking. Or it would be if his reasons were not so endearing.

I dunno. He's used it before on Bellatrix. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Or was the reason it was shocking because he meant it this time?

Snape: Is he as good a legilimens as an occlumens? Do the two go together? He used a spell when he broke into Harry's mind in book 5, but I could swear he was trying to read McGonagall's mind just before she attacked.

I am not sure. In any case, McGonagall's got a stronger mind than Harry.

Percy: about bloody time. I suppose he is right that he could not easily have broken rank as soon as Voldemort took over, but… What am I saying? Of course he could. He could have gone to the Burrow and asked to be let in.

Sometimes it's very hard to see that escape is possible. </totally speaking from experience> :P

Fleur: I like her attempt to break the tension.

I like Fleur.

Lupin: I like how he goes along with it. With a picture.

Hehe. Of course, this makes his death more heartbreaking.

Fred and George: One of our last chances to take stock of the differences between the two. I am not sure I can see them. Fred is the one to reach out after a jab. George mocks him, but in a friendly way. If there is a difference it is subtle.

Yes.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows Rebekah - 24/11/2010 07:47:44 PM 3933 Views
Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. Rebekah - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 1761 Views
Spoilers for book 7? Camilla - 24/11/2010 09:07:28 PM 1894 Views
Re: Spoilers for book 7? Rebekah - 24/11/2010 09:13:42 PM 1736 Views
*cough* Camilla - 16/12/2010 01:05:05 PM 1899 Views
The series as a whole: overall thoughts about the Harry Potter universe and all it contains Rebekah - 24/11/2010 07:49:21 PM 1802 Views
I think it was/is so successful because... Rebekah - 06/12/2010 11:06:59 PM 1871 Views
Overall thoughts for The Deathly Hallows Rebekah - 24/11/2010 07:50:12 PM 1868 Views
This might be the only book other than the first where I actually like Harry. Rebekah - 30/11/2010 03:13:25 PM 1771 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 30/11/2010 03:22:20 PM 976 Views
Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! nossy - 04/12/2010 03:45:24 PM 1904 Views
Re: Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! Camilla - 04/12/2010 10:33:03 PM 1928 Views
all the un-evil ones. nossy - 04/12/2010 11:54:22 PM 1810 Views
Re: all the un-evil ones. Camilla - 04/12/2010 11:57:09 PM 1875 Views
It's not as boring as I thought it was. Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:52:17 PM 1718 Views
Going all the way back to the beginning in a number of ways, all of them so far excellent. Legolas - 07/12/2010 10:19:33 PM 1949 Views
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Yes and no Camilla - 26/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 1919 Views
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As Katie said, the husband is still around. Legolas - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM 1954 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* Camilla - 24/11/2010 11:47:19 PM 2002 Views
Correction Dark Knight - 25/11/2010 12:38:57 AM 1883 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* <--- Rebekah - 27/11/2010 11:42:47 AM 2078 Views
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The epigraphs. Camilla - 24/11/2010 10:06:58 PM 1960 Views
I had considered making a separate section just for them. Rebekah - 27/11/2010 11:44:01 AM 1794 Views
other stuff Camilla - 24/11/2010 11:47:54 PM 1728 Views
I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. Legolas - 25/11/2010 04:26:58 PM 1710 Views
Re: I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. Mossman - 27/11/2010 01:20:44 AM 1821 Views
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Maybe? Camilla - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 1692 Views
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Oh yes. Rebekah - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 1843 Views
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Any other thoughts? *NM* Rebekah - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 923 Views
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I just realized something about Krum. Legolas - 06/12/2010 09:00:28 PM 1769 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. Camilla - 06/12/2010 09:55:00 PM 1732 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:06:01 PM 1922 Views
The action. Rebekah - 29/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 1686 Views
Plotting, mainly. Camilla - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 1810 Views
Hermione and obliviate. Rebekah - 30/11/2010 02:23:51 PM 1766 Views
Re: Hermione and obliviate. Camilla - 30/11/2010 03:24:06 PM 1818 Views
I think this was a Rowling mistake. It happens Dark Knight - 01/12/2010 08:32:25 PM 1840 Views
Agreed, though a rather blatant one that someone should have caught... *NM* Legolas - 06/12/2010 08:18:58 PM 900 Views
I wondered that same thing. *NM* Gher - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 926 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up nossy - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 1816 Views
Re: I might have my timeline mixed up Cockatiel of Doom - 09/12/2010 02:38:44 AM 1832 Views
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Er, I posted this in the wrong place. That's what I get when I try to catch up. Sorry. *NM* Legolas - 06/12/2010 08:34:06 PM 948 Views
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Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* Rebekah - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 871 Views
I want magic for my wedding *NM* Camilla - 29/11/2010 06:57:29 PM 917 Views
I'll see what I can do. *NM* Rebekah - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 971 Views
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Re: I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. Camilla - 30/11/2010 03:24:35 PM 1699 Views
And back in book 4. Dumbledore sends Hagrid a message like this Dark Knight - 01/12/2010 08:33:46 PM 1771 Views
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Seconded. Righteous anger is more fun than whiny angst-anger. *NM* Legolas - 06/12/2010 09:41:16 PM 886 Views
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Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. Legolas - 06/12/2010 09:54:53 PM 1789 Views
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Weaving the plot, the writing, and thematic matters. Rebekah - 01/12/2010 11:43:25 PM 1822 Views
The fidelius charm discussion, the invisibility cloak, the taboo, transfiguring food, and fear. Camilla - 02/12/2010 09:14:21 AM 1876 Views
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Re: The fidelius charm discussion, the invisibility cloak, the taboo, transfiguring food, and fear. Camilla - 02/12/2010 02:35:06 PM 1623 Views
Re: The fidelius charm discussion, the invisibility cloak, the taboo, transfiguring food, and fear. Dark Knight - 02/12/2010 04:16:14 PM 1908 Views
Re: The fidelius charm & the taboo. Oh, and magic food. Gher - 02/12/2010 05:59:28 PM 2070 Views
Re: The fidelius charm & the taboo. Oh, and magic food. Camilla - 02/12/2010 06:46:37 PM 2096 Views
And? And? And? *NM* Rebekah - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 919 Views
Did we have a discussion for a previous book about how many wizarding schools there are? Rebekah - 04/12/2010 10:21:42 PM 1926 Views
Re: Did we have a discussion for a previous book about how many wizarding schools there are? Camilla - 04/12/2010 10:32:17 PM 1821 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Muggle-Born Registration Commission, The Thief, The Goblin's Revenge *NM* Rebekah - 04/12/2010 11:01:25 AM 1067 Views
Characters: Ministry members, the trio, Ted, Dean, Dirk, Goblins, Phineas Nigellus Rebekah - 04/12/2010 11:07:57 AM 1807 Views
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Plotting, writing, theming. Rebekah - 04/12/2010 11:08:47 AM 1959 Views
Apparating and the fidelius charm, some good plotting and the food problem. Camilla - 04/12/2010 10:01:16 PM 2003 Views
Anything else? *NM* Rebekah - 04/12/2010 11:10:52 AM 944 Views
It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. Legolas - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 1814 Views
Re: It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:17:42 PM 1766 Views
Good catch Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:19:21 PM 1695 Views
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Characters: Harry, Hermione, Bathilda, Dumbledore and others Rebekah - 06/12/2010 09:57:52 PM 1897 Views
Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:02:13 PM 1927 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 1690 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 1732 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 1692 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. Legolas - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1721 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. Camilla - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 1745 Views
True, but still. *NM* Legolas - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 890 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! Rebekah - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 1793 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 1947 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? Legolas - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 1745 Views
But wait! There's more! Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 1761 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1447 Views
Re: As nutty as squirrel poo. Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:32:04 PM 1794 Views
Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* Legolas - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 923 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers Rebekah - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 1834 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* Rebekah - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 975 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. Camilla - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 1927 Views
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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. Legolas - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 1844 Views
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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 1794 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. Camilla - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 1816 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. Rebekah - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 1749 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 1777 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? Legolas - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 1834 Views
Very, very true. *NM* Camilla - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 900 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. Rebekah - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 1910 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. Camilla - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 1813 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. StormCrow - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 1795 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". Legolas - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1763 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". Camilla - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 1749 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". StormCrow - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 1947 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! StormCrow - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 1511 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* Legolas - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 887 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. Legolas - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 1717 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. Camilla - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 1896 Views
Plus, it totally cheapens ability and skill if you have some "magic (magic) wand". Legolas - 10/12/2010 08:56:28 PM 1852 Views
Re: Plus, it totally cheapens ability and skill if you have some "magic (magic) wand". Camilla - 10/12/2010 08:59:41 PM 1937 Views
That's definitely a part of it. Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:09:54 PM 1790 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* Rebekah - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 906 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 1703 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 943 Views
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On a side note about wands Camilla - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 1858 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. Legolas - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 1871 Views
Re: Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. Camilla - 14/12/2010 09:04:43 PM 1931 Views
Harry: Rebekah - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 1744 Views
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Plot, writing, themes. *NM* Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:13:37 PM 942 Views
An epiphany, Gollum, wands, the fidelius charm, grief, love and a strange blurring Camilla - 10/12/2010 11:24:05 PM 1737 Views
Re: An epiphany, Gollum, wands, the fidelius charm, grief, love and a strange blurring Rebekah - 20/12/2010 01:00:38 PM 1904 Views
Re: An epiphany, Gollum, wands, the fidelius charm, grief, love and a strange blurring Camilla - 20/12/2010 07:32:48 PM 1891 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 913 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place Rebekah - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 1732 Views
Characters *NM* Rebekah - 13/12/2010 10:03:29 PM 906 Views
Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla - 14/12/2010 05:16:51 PM 1878 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Legolas - 14/12/2010 10:04:09 PM 1864 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla - 14/12/2010 10:19:04 PM 1926 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Legolas - 14/12/2010 10:37:00 PM 1792 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla - 14/12/2010 10:45:36 PM 1931 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:33:49 PM 1935 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla - 20/12/2010 07:35:51 PM 2123 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 901 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. Camilla - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 1660 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. Legolas - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 1890 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. Camilla - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 1937 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2106 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. Camilla - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 1813 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 806 Views
Film stuff Camilla - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 1757 Views
Excellent point. Legolas - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 1742 Views
Re: Excellent point. Camilla - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 1761 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? Cockatiel of Doom - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 1658 Views
Both, ideally. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 1689 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 1754 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* Camilla - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 918 Views
Seconded. Legolas - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 1853 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* Rebekah - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 939 Views
Characters *NM* Rebekah - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 872 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Camilla - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 2021 Views
Various characters. Cockatiel of Doom - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 1792 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... Legolas - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2135 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Rebekah - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 1866 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:02:45 PM 1848 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... Legolas - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 1978 Views
Yes Camilla - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 1786 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Legolas - 26/12/2010 08:43:03 PM 1865 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* Rebekah - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 894 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good Camilla - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 1844 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good Rebekah - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 1816 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 2022 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 916 Views
Filch and a password. Camilla - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 1792 Views
Re: Filch and a password. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 1761 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale Rebekah - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 1819 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. Rebekah - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 1694 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 2047 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 1902 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 1812 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. Legolas - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2189 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. Rebekah - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 1844 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 1610 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 1915 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 1789 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Legolas - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 1789 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Camilla - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 1922 Views
Other matters. *NM* Rebekah - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 823 Views
More film stuff. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 1669 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 1697 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 1728 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 1860 Views
The Malfoys and Molly Legolas - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 1947 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly Camilla - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 1944 Views
Tying up the plot. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 1710 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 1836 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 1769 Views
Epilogue: the future. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 1835 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2118 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. Legolas - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 1857 Views
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