It's clearly not just about authorial intent. Authorial intent is only one of many problems in translating. When poetry gets translated these other factors are even more apparent. Word flow, the sound of certain phrases and how a translation is stylistically executed are as important, or even more important, than simple considerations of authorial intent.
The "broken" bridle point in the article is more a question of how cluttered and encumbered a simple French sentence should become in English. The dancing Salome point is a question of whether or not to explain a cultural reference via footnote (and break the scene flow), explain it by changing what is written or to just let it slip by the reader's attention and lose a bit of metaphor.
Most of the questions raised in the article have little to do with intent and much more to do with replicating stylistic devices (or not) and trying to find the right balance between literal translation and sentence flow in the second language. Did you read the article or just skim it?
The "broken" bridle point in the article is more a question of how cluttered and encumbered a simple French sentence should become in English. The dancing Salome point is a question of whether or not to explain a cultural reference via footnote (and break the scene flow), explain it by changing what is written or to just let it slip by the reader's attention and lose a bit of metaphor.
Most of the questions raised in the article have little to do with intent and much more to do with replicating stylistic devices (or not) and trying to find the right balance between literal translation and sentence flow in the second language. Did you read the article or just skim it?
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Julian Barnes on translation
18/11/2010 05:49:37 PM
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That's a very interesting article. Though it does sound like he'd never be happy.
18/11/2010 08:06:09 PM
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That was a long article.
19/11/2010 07:05:12 PM
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Re: That was a long article.
19/11/2010 09:59:24 PM
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Yeah, I think English translations on average are better than those in smaller languages.
19/11/2010 10:16:44 PM
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On balance, I'm glad I read the Steegmuller translation when I read the novel.
20/11/2010 05:14:42 PM
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Vas-tu faire s’enculée, Camille!
20/11/2010 05:26:08 PM
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If you don't mind a few grammatical corrections of your swearing...
20/11/2010 05:42:57 PM
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It was a quick and dirty rendering
20/11/2010 05:53:13 PM
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And I didn't order from France. It's a US-based company that I bought it from. *NM*
20/11/2010 05:54:55 PM
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I love Pleiade editions
21/11/2010 12:14:14 AM
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How tall are they, out of curiosity?
21/11/2010 12:50:57 AM
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Not tall
21/11/2010 09:59:55 AM
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I got my books today.
23/11/2010 05:38:20 AM
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Re: I got my books today.
23/11/2010 10:33:10 AM
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Regardless, if Pleiade is the best France has to offer, their book industry is awful.
23/11/2010 07:17:13 PM
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Re: Oh Authorial intent.
21/11/2010 02:07:27 AM
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Like hell it's about authorial intent.
21/11/2010 05:40:22 AM
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Re: I didn't even read it, I guessed based on the author's initials.
21/11/2010 01:37:40 PM
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So I take it you missed the whole part about Nabokov's translation of Eugene Onegin.
21/11/2010 03:28:14 PM
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Re: Yes, I missed all of that. Such a conclusion clearly follows from my previous response. *NM*
21/11/2010 03:57:16 PM
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Actually it does. Your responses are just cheap tricks, not discussions. *NM*
21/11/2010 04:44:21 PM
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Re: Cheap tricks?
21/11/2010 10:45:39 PM
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Barnes' article has little to do with authorial intent
21/11/2010 11:37:25 PM
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I think it is more about the "authentic experience" than about intent.
21/11/2010 10:01:57 AM
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