I hope not. I don't think Graendal had the interest or opportunity to manipulate Rand that early.
RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 13/04/2010 02:39:18 PM
Quite frankly, she is the one Forsaken who has been totally upfront about her overall interest in him and I can understand her, because I would most likely be the same way. She has no interest in him because she was too busy trying to A) survive and B) become Nae'blis. I seriously think her strategy didn't involve him, and she basically had a hands off approach allowing Moghedien, Mesaana, Rahvin, Demandred, Sammael, Lanfear and Ishamael/Moridin to get winnowed out trying to capture or turn him. I think her strategy was to manipulate the particular Forsaken who was trying to capture Rand - not capture or manipulate Rand directly. This is why I believe she manipulated events to plan her escape while removing as many traces of her trail as possible.
Personally, I think Rand is the prime candidate for the source of those voices because it seems to be his inherent personality to have these drives, and all Tam's guidance did was establish a moral system that seems to have been in conflict with these drives. It says a lot to me that Rand was essentially a passive personality and as soon as he needed to get aggressive and fight, he had to develop a switch. Lews Therin, IMHO, also had a very aggressive (ie: annoying) and narcissistic personality so it seems to make sense to me that Rand's personality might have been the same, since a soul may very well carry the nuggets of your personality into the next life.
Personally, I think Rand is the prime candidate for the source of those voices because it seems to be his inherent personality to have these drives, and all Tam's guidance did was establish a moral system that seems to have been in conflict with these drives. It says a lot to me that Rand was essentially a passive personality and as soon as he needed to get aggressive and fight, he had to develop a switch. Lews Therin, IMHO, also had a very aggressive (ie: annoying) and narcissistic personality so it seems to make sense to me that Rand's personality might have been the same, since a soul may very well carry the nuggets of your personality into the next life.
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This message last edited by RugbyPlayingAshaman on 14/04/2010 at 06:10:56 PM
I hope Graendal was responsible for LTT's voice all along! What happened to our little boy?!
13/04/2010 04:02:20 AM
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I have to disagree.
13/04/2010 05:34:44 AM
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You're right, but a couple of points
15/04/2010 01:38:48 AM
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I don't really get Rand self-pity from the books.
15/04/2010 04:01:27 AM
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"How hard will I become," Rand thought, "'til simply *being myself* feels like the taint on saidar"
15/04/2010 06:06:58 AM
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Re: You're right, but a couple of points... unreasonable expectations
27/04/2010 08:02:20 AM
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Wow, very thoughtful, and I can't find anything to disagree with in what you wrote... *NM*
01/05/2010 03:11:37 AM
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I hope not. I don't think Graendal had the interest or opportunity to manipulate Rand that early.
13/04/2010 02:39:18 PM
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The voice was a reincarnation side effect, but why did RJ take his hand!
27/04/2010 07:37:49 PM
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