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Spot-on beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM
Well DOH, Elaida is a bad ruler. And if you are talking about the SAS, they really have no reason to BE at all if the don't overthrow Elaida. So, yes that group, AS A WHOLE, is focused on deposing Elaida. That said, a significant number of AS in both groups have done good, beneficial things.

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Individual Aes Sedai can and often do perform great acts. The Aes Sedai as a collective on the other hand, whether it's the united White Tower, Elaida's Tower, or the Salidar rebels, accomplish little. I would have to look into it all a bit more closely to be sure (perhaps during another reread) but it might even be fair to say that they do more harm than good.
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous beetnemesis - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1249 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... vandevere - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 836 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* Bryce - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 508 Views
That is the inspiration for the Aes Sedai that RJ used - I can't find the article, though. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 02:39:14 PM 784 Views
When I was reading this I was thinking of the paralells between the white tower and Tashmere - 03/09/2009 02:47:33 AM 986 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 856 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. Corwin - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 819 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 790 Views
Re: Really? Corwin - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 748 Views
So lets add a few more NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 752 Views
most of these are accounted for above ranagrande - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 817 Views
Just because we don't know all their names, doesn't mean their effectiveness on the Pattern was less RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 03:19:41 PM 807 Views
But who did the work? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 655 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 676 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 696 Views
Actually I think that's his point ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 787 Views
Spot-on beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 606 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 643 Views
Re: But who did the work? ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 733 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 750 Views
well, yeah ranagrande - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 776 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. fionwe1987 - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 681 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 676 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 641 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 680 Views
I'm not convinced that it does ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 778 Views
I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 698 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 750 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 685 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 902 Views
Re: I don't understand your point NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 671 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 683 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 623 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 703 Views
No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 634 Views
You just made our point... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 713 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 610 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 735 Views
WT has been THE single greatest force for stagancy and lack of development. Lohikaarme - 09/09/2009 08:58:58 AM 645 Views
Like I said earlier the AS are superfluous except the ones who aren't superfluous. NaClH2O - 09/09/2009 11:55:47 AM 728 Views
To a certain extent ajsr1982 - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 869 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 708 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 820 Views
Without the Tower Voscaia Sedai - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 618 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. nossy - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 657 Views
Agrees with Nossy NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 955 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 625 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 976 Views
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