The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer...
Etzel Send a noteboard - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM
... we didn't even know that Slayer could travel the Dreamworld at the time. When he was shot in the dreamwoods by Perrin in The Shadow Rising he woke up in Emond's Field, like he was just an ordinary Dreamwalker. At the time I thought he was simply Luc who became Isam when he was in Tel'aran'rhiod.
The way Slayer's powers work in that book are bizarrely different from those he employs elsewhere.
We were supposed to have all the information we needed at the time, so it seems improbable that we are supposed to divine that the perpetrator was someone using powers that we did not even know he possessed until several books later. At the time, Slayer had not demonstrated the ability to enter the Dreamworld in the flesh, and therefore to travel using it.
The way Slayer's powers work in that book are bizarrely different from those he employs elsewhere.
We were supposed to have all the information we needed at the time, so it seems improbable that we are supposed to divine that the perpetrator was someone using powers that we did not even know he possessed until several books later. At the time, Slayer had not demonstrated the ability to enter the Dreamworld in the flesh, and therefore to travel using it.
For example is the following talk between Hopper and Perrin in TSR, ch.28, quite revealing:
"You chase Slayer, Young Bull. He it here in the flesh, and he can kill."
“In the flesh? You mean not just dreaming? How can he be here in the flesh?”
"I do not know. It is a thing dimly remembered from long ago, come again as so much else. Things of the Shadow walk the dream, now. Creatures of Heartfang. There a no safety."
And a bit later Birgitte tells Perrin after he mentions Slayer: “A good name for him. This Slayer is not old, archer, but his evil is ancient.”
This shows that Slayer is very deadly, uses TAR in the flesh and obviously got this ability from the DO.
How you could think at the time of TSR that Slayer is just an ordinary Dreamwalker, but certainly can't be in TAR in the flesh, is simply beyond me. The information is there, you just have to remember it. And if you manage this, it's also not that difficult anymore to find out Asmo's obvious killer, namely Slayer.
Plus, Slayer always leaves the corpses behind.
If his Forsaken patron wanted that Slayer takes the corpse, he would naturally do it.
This message last edited by Etzel on 25/03/2010 at 09:46:49 AM
Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson
22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM
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The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is...
22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM
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So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway?
22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM
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I think Slayer spied on Asmo
22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM
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I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM*
22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM
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Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM*
22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM
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Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM
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Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM
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In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM*
29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM
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As far as I'm concerned...
25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM
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The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer...
25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM
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Correction...
25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM
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So, basically...
25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM
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The clues are there?
25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM
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Re: The clues are there?
26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM
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He wasn't being insulting, I don't think.
26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM
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well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh?
26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM
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Apparently...
26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM
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No it isn't.
26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM
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You don't understand...
27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM
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Re: You don't understand...
27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM
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Both merged into one being
29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM
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Not what I asked.
29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM
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If he couldn't do this...
29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM
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Re: If he couldn't do this...
29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM
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That Basel Gill comparison just silly...
29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM
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I've asked you only one question, repeatedly.
30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM
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Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues...
30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM
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You have never provided anything even resembling evidence.
30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM
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Dude
30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM
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You know what's really embarrassing?
30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM
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One last time...
31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM
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Egwene did it though
09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM
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Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't.
09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM
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Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM*
09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM
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But we don't actually see that
09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM
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But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense.
09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM
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by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle
09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM
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A question on balefire/2 servants
24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM
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Re: A question on balefire/2 servants
24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM
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First rule of balefire:
25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM
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Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does!
28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM
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On the servants theory
25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM
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Rand's odd wounds
29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM
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RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds.
29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM
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Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to?
25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM
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RJ said that. *NM*
25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM
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@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R...
31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM
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Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM
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Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM
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