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I agree Cannoli Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 03:35:05 PM
You say that Rand needs to cause more destruction. I agree and think there needs to be a huge sacrifice.

Lets assume this sacrifice HAS to be payed, there's no way to sidestep it. (a theme strongly implied in the prophesies)

My opinion is this. The earlier 'dark' Rand would have no problems sacrificing as many as he needed to (although it would probably make him go more down the path of darkness and insanity). But the new 'enlightened' Rand may have a hard time. Imagine a situation where the 'good' Rand HAS to sacrifice people or give up the fight. Since we have assumed this should happen, this WILL happen eventually. At this point Rand is going to have a much much harder time deciding. The two possible logical results would be that Rand either sacrifices ad reverts back to some semblance of the 'dark' Rand, or he doesn't do anything and fatally compromises the battle at TG. In this case the hard decisions are still in the future and Rand was brought to this position so that he will be 'weak' at that point.

But I have the dirty feeling that RJ is going to 'cheat' and provide a way out of this sacrifice.....So ya, if RJ does cheat, then it seems like its been way too easy for Rand.


I agree with the more interesting potenial conflict inherent in such a sacrifice with his new outlook, and with the worry that RJ/B-Sand will evade it. Though I would argue that such a sacrifice arising would be an excellent opportunity to show that good does not have to mean weak, and that you can do the hard thing without going dark. That was the problem with Rand, after all. It was the fact that he was UNNECESSARILY going dark. He was driven to it by his hardships and the betrayals he endured, but he did not HAVE to go that route - he took a path of lesser resistance, and his self-imposed hardening was actually a way of avoiding the pain, rather than dealing with it. By going dark he was trying to have his cake and eat it too, to avoid dealing with the personal pain, while not actually evading his duty. Of course, eventually it all caught up to him and his character fault did interfere with his duty, but hopefully he's over that now, and capable of dealing with and accepting the pain and making the tough calls without getting messed up over it.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
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