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As I explained to others... Etzel Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 10:27:17 AM
It's ironic foreshadowing, because the author made Aran'gar's thought in KoD - which I agree was cynical, because actually she killed her allies - come literally true: her new ally died as all the others, misfortune actually played a part in this, Graendal wasn't useful anymore in Arad Doman & in the story, she didn't even have a grave because of her balefire death, and the other characters & we readers won't hear about her affiliations to Aran'gar from Graendal anymore, since she took this knowledge with her, when she died.

It's often the case that foreshadowings basically announce the core of what will happen (though I think Aran'gar's quote is very obvious in its irony): when e.g. Rand tells Min in LoC: "Trust me, Min. I won't hurt you. I will cut off my arm before I hurt you", it might foreshadow that Rand will lose his hand and that he will hurt Min, though the circumstances are not exactly like the foreshadowing.

I'm pretty sure that Aran'gar might muse on the irony that this time she didn't even have to kill her new ally, because it truly was this time in a way misfortune that killed Graendal. Again Aran'gar outlived her ally.
This message last edited by Etzel on 18/03/2010 at 11:02:39 AM
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Ironic foreshadowing of Graendal's death? - 17/03/2010 01:52:32 PM 961 Views
Wow Nice one... hats off to RJ *NM* - 17/03/2010 02:37:14 PM 150 Views
I like it *NM* - 17/03/2010 03:14:38 PM 131 Views
Hmmm, I don't think so. I think it may be indicative of his own end, though. - 17/03/2010 05:11:18 PM 402 Views
I don't follow your logic here - 17/03/2010 05:39:24 PM 331 Views
Re: I don't follow your logic here - 17/03/2010 05:46:05 PM 357 Views
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Re: died sinfully - 19/03/2010 02:03:14 PM 272 Views
Wait, have I read this passage wrong?? - 17/03/2010 06:07:31 PM 330 Views
No, Aran'gar muses about her own alliances. *NM* - 17/03/2010 06:24:35 PM 132 Views
That was my interpretation as well, when I read it in the book. *NM* - 18/03/2010 09:01:01 PM 114 Views
I agree *NM* - 17/03/2010 06:22:48 PM 126 Views
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Uh no - 19/03/2010 05:37:22 PM 281 Views
It doesn't fit with Graendal's demise enough to have been hinting at it - 18/03/2010 03:45:35 AM 342 Views
As I explained to others... - 18/03/2010 10:27:17 AM 312 Views
Wow Rand and Min.......RJ = Genius..... *NM* - 18/03/2010 02:57:53 PM 122 Views
Re: As I explained to others... - 18/03/2010 11:08:44 PM 304 Views
Yeah, that is also a good analysis! *NM* - 19/03/2010 10:13:59 AM 263 Views

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