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Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM
At the end of the EotW when Rand confronts Ba'alzamon, Ba'alzamon produces Kari al'Thor to taunt Rand.

Kari al'Thor says: "The Father of Lies has a honeyed tongue for unwary souls. My son. My only, darling son. I would spare you if I could, but he is my mster, now"

Did the DO "with his honeyed tongue" turn Kari al'Thor to the darkside? If so, what could he have promised her? Or did he snatch her soul when she died?


That's what I always figured - Kari Al'Thor became a Darkfriend (probably why she died so young). We have seen decent people turn to the dark out of despair (Ingtar) or blackmail (Verin), without becoming evil necessarily. I suspect she was told that her son would be safe if she turned.

Or did Ba'alzamon create the illusion of Rand's mother to torment him in the hopes of turning Rand?


I don't think so. Initially we see Egwene (and Elayne?) in that scene too. When Rand claims it's not real, their images disappear, but Kari remains, and both she and Ba'alzamon indicate she is now his. Rand destroys her with what appears to be balefire, so I assume he manages to free her soul from the Dark in this way, especially as she then thanks him.
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Kari al' Thor Gerbeaud - 03/03/2010 10:09:10 PM 1323 Views
I always figured..... Jeordam - 03/03/2010 10:24:41 PM 938 Views
Re: I always figured..... Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:33:34 AM 810 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor randfandom - 03/03/2010 11:36:48 PM 1208 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor BlackAdder - 04/03/2010 03:51:00 AM 744 Views
Well... File Leader - 03/03/2010 11:44:12 PM 753 Views
It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 01:30:16 AM 862 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Gerbeaud - 04/03/2010 01:38:44 AM 792 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. Evil_Monkey - 04/03/2010 02:16:12 PM 691 Views
Nice... but car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:54:02 PM 664 Views
Well, I thought that Rand wrenched control of the illusion from Ishamael... Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:06 PM 684 Views
Re: It's a Tel'aran'rhiod construct. DomA - 04/03/2010 04:48:53 PM 756 Views
Agreed. Excellent reasoning. *NM* scalius - 04/03/2010 06:07:24 PM 299 Views
Hadn't even considered that. Yes, I think you are correct. Fanatic-Templar - 04/03/2010 07:09:14 PM 791 Views
While you're probably right... Gher - 04/03/2010 05:04:27 PM 728 Views
Re: While you're probably right... DomA - 04/03/2010 05:58:52 PM 730 Views
Not everything got tweaked... Gher - 04/03/2010 07:57:47 PM 658 Views
Re: Not everything got tweaked... DomA - 05/03/2010 10:36:54 PM 770 Views
For the record I agree with your theory. Gher - 07/03/2010 06:26:45 AM 639 Views
I just thought that Ishamael manipulated T'A'R to trap Rand in a dream based on Rand's thoughts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/03/2010 06:04:22 PM 690 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor car'a'aman - 04/03/2010 03:44:09 PM 744 Views
Re: Kari al' Thor DomA - 04/03/2010 07:01:43 PM 670 Views
car'a'aman - 05/03/2010 09:02:07 AM 649 Views
Re: DomA - 06/03/2010 12:07:09 AM 731 Views
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