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Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM
My complaint is that the organization itself is ineffectual. Individual sisters can still sometimes do great things, but they're acting on their own. We STILL don't know if seeking out women who can channel was Verin's sole purpose in coming to the Two Rivers- remember, other than Moiraine and Siuan, she was the only other sister who knew what was going on (as much as anyone did in tSR, anyway). Whatever her intentions were, however, were hers and hers alone- not the Towers, and not Siuan's.


The big challenge for the AS now is how they adjust and learn to accept the new, less lofty place in the scheme of things.


Definitely. It's pretty obvious to me that the WT, in its current incarnation at least, is obsolete. Saidin is cleansed, the Black Tower has been built, the Oath Rod halves your lifecycle, Aiel and Windfinders hold honored places WITHOUT binding themselves, and Tarmon Gai'don is coming.

Whenever Egwene talks about "all women who can channel being linked to the White Tower," or her ridiculous plan involving the Kin, it just reeks of desperation and denial.

Most people hate Aes Sedai, some for good reason, others for simple superstition. But even those who don't hate them are incredibly suspicious of them. Why would anyone want an advisor like that?
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1179 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 767 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 483 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 788 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 746 Views
Really? - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 716 Views
Re: Really? - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 682 Views
So lets add a few more - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 684 Views
most of these are accounted for above - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 758 Views
But who did the work? - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 609 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 632 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 619 Views
Actually I think that's his point - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 702 Views
Spot-on - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 530 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 570 Views
Re: But who did the work? - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 645 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 671 Views
well, yeah - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 739 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 610 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 606 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 565 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 609 Views
I'm not convinced that it does - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 710 Views
I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 631 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 680 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 612 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 813 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 591 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 609 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 554 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 624 Views
No you are talking about Elaida - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 547 Views
You just made our point... - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 644 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 549 Views
Not at all... - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 658 Views
To a certain extent - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 793 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 636 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 749 Views
Without the Tower - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 544 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 590 Views
Agrees with Nossy - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 885 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 549 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 890 Views

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